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- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
- Replies: 206
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Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
The idea that the first gospel has not been subjected to a lot of editings and expansions can be compared to the fixism in biology. Obviously, it is an irrational theory. Take the Jewish trial of Jesus. It is clearly an apology, for diplomatic reasons, in order to exonerate the Romans. As such it i...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcionites thought Jesus wasn't 'Christos'?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 937
Re: Marcionites thought Jesus wasn't 'Christos'?
Maybe Tertullian is pushing his definition of Christ here Justin says "And, as we said before, the devils put forward Marcion of Pontus, who is even now teaching men to deny that God is the maker of all things in heaven and on earth, and that the Christ predicted by the prophets is His Son, and...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
- Replies: 206
- Views: 4598
Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
what a load of junk this is. so Jesus gets no trial and dies and can't have his body taken down. on the assumption there isn't a base to the story. that is the assumption and the motive becomes clear - to give priority to the epistles! so its just someone with an epistle priority theory that wants t...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Boid's Soon to be Published Reference to Shilo = Chrestos
- Replies: 35
- Views: 698
Re: Boid's Soon to be Published Reference to Shilo = Chrestos
In Syriac and probably Aramaic 'goodness/blessed' and 'grace' are same root almost same word. one get's translated Agathos (I think? or Makarios) the other Charis (for sure) i mean in Greek they seem unrelated they don't in Aramaic they are very close. Something like TWBA/TWBTA/Towba (msc) vs Taybut...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Boid's Soon to be Published Reference to Shilo = Chrestos
- Replies: 35
- Views: 698
Re: Boid's Soon to be Published Reference to Shilo = Chrestos
My own pet theory here is that speculation regarding ὁ ἀγαθὸς and ὁ χρηστὸς developed as a result of a two powers in heaven perspective (something you have also remarked on). God always was associated with ὁ ἀγαθὸς because it is the noble good, in and of itself, that is proper to divinity, by defin...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcionites thought Jesus wasn't 'Christos'?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 937
Re: Marcionites thought Jesus wasn't 'Christos'?
If the author has knowledge of a doctrine of "two Christs", then the author would need to have some knowledge of it. If there is some doctrine of the real, non-Jesus "Hebrew" Christ that is allegedly Marcionite, then this allegedly Marcionite doctrine must have developed some pu...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 1487
Re: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
dbz, i think the problem is that in the case the epistle's aren't Messianic and date a little later it begs the question - what about the messianic original movement? was there one, or did the church frame it that way in the gospels and acts? i'm just disagreeing with everyone. i flat out think ther...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 1487
Re: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
There could be evidence for the conclusion that the Pauline letters wrote about "Chrestos" (instead of "Christos") in its repeated name for Jesus, but we're not going to get it by counting the amount of evidence-against. The "Elvis" analogy, if it has any relevance, cu...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 1487
Re: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
The basic approach here is based on a fallacy. Trying to discount evidence-against doesn't create evidence-for. There could be evidence for the conclusion that the Pauline letters didn't write about "Christos." But we're not going to get it by counting the amount of evidence-against. Ther...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 1487
Re: Is this Ultimate Proof that "Christian" Derives from Chrestos?
There are 8 references to Jesus being the Messiah in the 13 Pauline epistles (via mention of David, messianic prophecy or messianic title) 6 in Romans, 1 in 1 Corinthians and 1 in 2 Timothy The 7 in the genuine letters are not present in Marcion There are about 55 much stronger references in the gos...