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- Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37751
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
I just find it strange that you used " (sayings of) the Lord" suggesting that Paul uses "the Lord" (the Jewish substitute for YHWH) regarding Jesus. A major passage supporting that usage is 1 Cor 11:23ff (the other being 1 Cor 6:14, disrupting the rhetorical structure of its con...
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1969
The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
The Lord v. my lord Over the years I have tried without success to convince people to be wary of identifying the "Lord", without qualification, as Jesus in Paul's letters. Despite phrases such as "my lord Jesus Christ", the logic for not identifying Jesus with "the Lord&quo...
- Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37751
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
I consider it quite plausible (but not completely certain) that the 1 Corinthians 11 passage was interpolated. I also consider it plausible that the author of Mark was familiar with Paul's teaching about a saying of the Lord on divorce. I don't have any certainty myself, though the evidence for the...
- Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37751
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Why does Paul never quote Jesus, unambiguously, even in contexts where it would have helped his arguments? 1 Corinthians 7 1 Corinthians 11 Peter, are you saying 1 Cor 7 was cited by the collator of Mk and that 1 Cor 11 has a direct quote from Lk (which was written 50+ years after Paul)? -------- (...
- Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: TF language issues
- Replies: 30
- Views: 7164
Re: TF language issues
This is an image of the Testimonium from Codex Ambrosianus (usually called Manuscript M for Milan), the earliest Greek manuscript (11th century) containing the relevant section of Book XVIII of the Antiquities. Testimonium Flavianum from Codex Ambrosianus (M) - Robert Eisler - The Messiah Jesus and...
- Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: TF language issues
- Replies: 30
- Views: 7164
TF language issues
I created a list of various language issues noted about the Testimonium Flavianum from the following works for my own needs, ordering them as seen below, and I thought it might be of some use for forum members. Texts used, preceded by letters used in the comments section below that indicate the sour...
- Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christus/Chrestus in the Original Texts
- Replies: 62
- Views: 19896
Re: Tacitus an Interpolation: Detering Argument
(whether it facilitated or was facilitated by a concurrent move from Xρηστός to Χριστός would be both interesting to know and hard to know) You are aware that there are examples of iota > epsilon-iota, can you supply new testament lexical examples to support your assertion of a "move from Xρησ...
- Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Tacitus, Annals 15.44 Interpolation Historiography
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3047
- Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christus/Chrestus in the Original Texts
- Replies: 62
- Views: 19896
Re: Tacitus an Interpolation: Detering Argument
And the earliest copy of Acts 26:28 is in Sinaiticus and is clearly XPHCTIANON ... And here is Acts 11:26 in Sinaiticus also clearly XPHCTIANOY ... So really, the only evidence for Christian for XC is 1 Peter 4:16 in p72 all other examples are either nomina sacra or Chrestian. The information above...
- Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...
- Replies: 40
- Views: 7242
Re: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...
It seems obvious that one of the writer borrowed from the other. I was arguing that the TT was dependent on Severus. If SS was really independant from Tacitus, we should explain where does SS take his information about Neron being in Atium when the burning begin ? To my knowledge, it was only menti...