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by maryhelena
Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerized Jesus Reboot
Replies: 12
Views: 10877

Re: Euhemerized Jesus Reboot

Thanks, David, for the quotes. However, I didn't find anything in them that supports your definition of euhemerism : "euhemerism" is a modern construct that can mean......the historicizing of a mythical figure". That's really all this back and forth over euhemerism is about - can euhe...
by maryhelena
Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerized Jesus Reboot
Replies: 12
Views: 10877

Re: Euhemerized Jesus Reboot

DCHindley, thanks for your comments. But I'm not sure how they interact with the OP topic, i.e. whether the Gospels fall into the category of "Euhemerized" stories about a god. What is your view on that? It just seemed to be necessary to define terms. In short, "euhemerism" is a...
by maryhelena
Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history
Replies: 8
Views: 12816

Re: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history

It is interesting to consider, in attempting to understand the historical context that the gospel writers referenced in their JC story, this quote from Daniel Schwartz. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9trWVaX8n_4C&pg=PA1&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false Was 70 CE a W...
by maryhelena
Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history
Replies: 8
Views: 12816

Re: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history

JSTOR has the following article available in full for free; Jesus as Archelaus in the Parable of the Pounds (Lk. 19:11-27) A central question from the article is quoted below. Could it be that this Herodian palace complex, last renovated and used by Archelaus but still standing in Jesus's day, trig...
by maryhelena
Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history
Replies: 8
Views: 12816

Re: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history

Neil, please don't think that I'm seeking to downplay the role of imagination in living a life that is more than simple existence. And yes, people are willing to die for their dreams. But that does not grant any sort of validity to their dreams. It is not dreams of pure imagination that have anythi...
by maryhelena
Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history
Replies: 8
Views: 12816

Re: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history

Likewise, an ahistoric/mythicist theory that would proposes that the gospel story is wholly some sort of spiritual/intellectual exercise is inherently flawed. Such a myth would not have the inherent ability to sustain itself. All in the mind, pure imagination, does not produce a meaningful story, a...
by maryhelena
Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history
Replies: 8
Views: 12816

Euhemerism, the gospels and Hasmonean Jewish history

The JC historicists uphold the view that by removing all the mythological elements in the gospel story they, somehow, find a historical, flesh and blood, Jesus. Since, it seems, that Jewish people were not about mythologizing any human man, this theory of the JC historicists is untenable. The opposi...
by maryhelena
Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142717

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Just ask yourself: Euhemerism One theory [/i] claims that myths are distorted accounts of real historical events.[23][24] According to this theory, storytellers repeatedly elaborated upon historical accounts until the figures in those accounts gained the status of gods.[23][24] For example, one mig...
by maryhelena
Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142717

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Thanks, maryhelena, for spending the time on this definition. I think we have saturated the possibilities and have to just agree to disagree. I'm fine with letting any potential readers of this discussion draw their own conclusions out of it. This discussion has been fruitful for me, even though, w...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142717

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Euhemerism in the proper Greek sense is the belief that myth is nothing more than forgotten history, and what the Greeks enjoyed as their mythological heritage was, according to the doctrines of the fourth century B.C. Sicilian philosopher Euhemeros, just remote Greek history imperfectly remembered...