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by John2
Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:24 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

Regarding the reconstruction of CD 14, Grindheim notes that: ... the reconstruction can be translated in different ways. In Garcia Martinez's rendering, the line reads, "[until there arises the messia]h of Aaron and Israel. And their iniquity will be atoned [through meal and sin-offerings].&quo...
by John2
Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:33 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Other Temples
Replies: 34
Views: 29905

Re: Other Temples

Here's another interesting article (and video) from 8/4/16 called Temple Institute Opens School for Levite Priests in Preparation for Third Temple.

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/73287 ... 6EiwcFz.97
by John2
Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:27 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

BDJ, Thanks for the response. Apparently Martinez has another translation of CD 14.18-20 and that gave me the impression that the Messiah would pardon sins: And this is the exact interpretation by which [they shall be ruled] [until there arises the messiah] of Aaron and Israel. He shall atone for th...
by John2
Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:07 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

However you understand or reconstruct CD 14.18-19, there are other arguable references to the coming of the Messiah in CD 7-8 (in interpretations of prophecies that are applied to Jesus in the NT): Then I will exile the Sikkut of your king and the Kiyyun of your images "away from the tents of D...
by John2
Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:54 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

BDJ, But the document that has these four messianic passages is also the only DSS that mentions the new covenant in a place called Damascus. So the way I see it is that because this type of messianic expectation and way of living was part of a "new covenant," it was, well ... new, like the...
by John2
Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:36 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

BDJ wrote: "And why present 'the prophets' as an example of suffering and compassion, and not even mention Jesus' crucifixion here?" I suspect that the relative "silence" about Jesus in the Letter of James is due to the fact that the DSS sect/Essenes/Jewish Christians kept their ...
by John2
Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:17 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

We already know that James regarded Jesus as the Messiah because he calls him Christ in 1:1 and 2:1, and this is understood to mean the Messiah in the NT, e.g., Mk. 14:61, "Again the high priest asked him, 'Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?'" and Jn. 1:41, "We have found the...
by John2
Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:22 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

Regarding possible messianism in James 5:7 (or whether "the Lord" refers to God or Jesus here), Cheung notes (pg. 249-250): However the word παρουσία ('coming,' 5:7) is never used in the LXX with reference to the coming of God or any divine figures. In the New Testament, the expression &qu...
by John2
Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:04 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Prophecy
Replies: 41
Views: 38161

Re: Prophecy

I was hoping you would engage with me on the issue of the relationship between the DSS and Christianity and I wouldn't mind seeing the idea picked apart. I'm not invested in it, it just makes sense to me. I don't have a lot of time to respond at the moment (I was wrapping up my time at the library w...
by John2
Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:25 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Grateful Dead
Replies: 121
Views: 385052

Re: Grateful Dead

The stand out songs on my first listen as I was typing away at the library earlier today were Looks Like Rain (it was raining outside when it was playing) and Black Peter, a song I don't really "like" but don't necessarily hate that I've never really known what to make of and isn't somethi...