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What about the reports (above) of those "who confess not that Jesus Christ (IS XS) is come in the flesh"? It stands to reason there were people who doubted IS XS appeared in the flesh. Yes, I agree. Could these people be doubting whether IS XS appeared in history as a human being? Yes. It...

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pmAnd what are your thoughts on these texts and these passages?

I've never looked into the Recognitions passage. The others seem to involve questioning whether Christ has come, rather than whether Jesus existed.

Again in this case, most of the comment exploring the interpretation also came from me at the time. Likewise, it can be discussed, but I don't know if I would defend what I wrote then. Yes, there are no doubt there are texts that people can point to (which they have done in this thread) where the i...

I have never found a single convincing piece of evidence that anyone denied the historicity of Jesus prior to the 1600s. The earliest evidence I've ever found was Hugo Grotius responding to people (unnamed) claiming Jesus didn't exist by producing evidence of his existence from non-Christian source...

Tertullian wrote in "The Prescription against Heretics": http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/tertullian11.html Where was Marcion then, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus then, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men l...

I would just add, likewise, that even without such biases in the documentary record, we also don't find examples of people claiming that the Sibyls never existed either, or really hundreds or thousands of figures which it is now widely assumed, never existed. Actually, we do. For example, in Tatian...

As you indicated above re my question on crucifixion - ''not necessarily I suppose' - then, I would suggest, that is a good starting point when looking for a figure, during the time of Tiberius and Pilate, that might have left his footprint..... Fair point, but this thread isn't about looking for s...

Was your 'figure living around 30 CE who inspired the Gospel stories' crucified ? Hmmm... not necessarily I suppose. It's the time-travel test: if you can take a time machine back to around that time period could you meet the person who inspired the development of Christianity? So I'm looking for e...

I thought I'd start a new thread here rather than interrupt the one here: https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11683 Why is this important (replying to Joseph D L)? Because I am tired to hear the apologetical motive that none doubted about the historicity of Jesus in the Antiquity...

Truthfully I don't think Epiphanius himself knew what he was talking about. He does this kind of duplication often, the most obvious coming to mind is Cerinthus/Merinthus. God knows what Epiphanius had in mind. It's clear what he had in mind, at least for his 'Panarion'. He describes it himself in ...