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by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 72
Views: 27655

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

The chrestos / christos part definitely was secondary, now you mention it it would be fun to dig through the NT for that as well! I'll throw in (holy) Spirit as well, could be fun, especially when we take the church fathers along with all that But if all we have is NS how can we know if the author ...
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT - Matthew and Mark
Replies: 50
Views: 22816

Re: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT: Matthew and Mark

Ben C. Smith wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:03 am No problem.
Would Theosoteros be right though? Just checking my grasp of Greek.
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 72
Views: 27655

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

I note that the abbreviation KU is used as well
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 72
Views: 27655

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

Kind of begs the question of why they used the NS IE but wrote out the title Chrestou in full though.
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 72
Views: 27655

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

It looks like Cora's premise that Marcion used Isu is flawed. From our own DCHindley. I will probably regret doing this, but here is something I wrote on the subject in 2014: Christos = anointed. Chrestos = "good," or "useful." It was Dan Mahar, in the pdf of his English Translat...
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT - Matthew and Mark
Replies: 50
Views: 22816

Re: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT: Matthew and Mark

Sure for us but both the Greeks and the Jews had names that were regular words tacked together like Erosthanos meaning beautiful strength.
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT - Matthew and Mark
Replies: 50
Views: 22816

Re: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT: Matthew and Mark

Actually, Theosoteros. But you get what I mean.
by Jax
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT - Matthew and Mark
Replies: 50
Views: 22816

Re: Jesus / Christ in all of the NT: Matthew and Mark

Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus are reversible because Jesus is a personal name and Christ is an honorific (just as a certain famous Seleucid king can be either Ἀντίοχος Ἐπιφανής or ὁ Ἐπιφανὴς Ἀντίοχος). If both were personal names, they would not be reversible (Marcus Antonius, never Antonius Marcus...
by Jax
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My current and still developing view of the nomina sacra.
Replies: 64
Views: 34284

Re: My current and still developing view of the nomina sacra.

To clarify my earlier comment on the early Muslims calling Jesus Isa. On reading up on the Injil I note that the name Iesa is also used so it looks like their sources included the NS IS and IES at least.