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by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Date of Marcion
Replies: 14
Views: 232

Re: The Date of Marcion

When do we date Marcion? Which of the reports of the events of his life, which come to us through hostile patristic authors, are reasonably accurate and when did they take place? I once wrote this. I realize this isn't a direct response to the question of whether Marcion was behind everything, but ...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 495

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Leaving Giuseppe's example aside, are there any examples of texts expressing doubt of the historicity of Jesus I doubt that there are any such examples. But I can mention a couple places where the discussion has cropped up before. how mythicists are judged Here, Irish1975 provided a translation of ...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 62
Views: 829

Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus

I am expecting an official withdrawal by Peter Kirby to see if he has given up finally to accuse Reinach of having misinterpreted Loisy by replacing 'archives' with 'Old Testament' You haven't demonstrated that you understand the difficulties with Reinach's argument. The last relevant thing you sai...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 97
Views: 1992

Re: Mark's dependence on Luke

Steven Avery wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:09 am As I believe that Luke and Mark wrote early with direct sources, not picking up long-ago "oral traditions".
And that is what you believe.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 97
Views: 1992

Re: Mark's dependence on Luke

(c) Nothing you've said does anything to identify which gospel should be presupposed in this prior-gospel hypothesis. Do you have an additional argument to say that a prior gospel here could not, for example, be Matthew? Comparing Luke and Matthew as sources for Mark, we have the ten or so reasons ...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 62
Views: 829

Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus

Giuseppe wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:42 pm Why is this important (replying to Joseph D L)? Because I am tired to hear the apologetical motive that none doubted about the historicity of Jesus in the Antiquity.
It will be difficult to change the conversation if your focus when you write is truly only about convincing yourself.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:20 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Microplastics contaminate Archaeological Samples
Replies: 1
Views: 51

Re: Microplastics contaminate Archeological Samples

Thanks! This is a good place for it, as the catch-all history forum.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 97
Views: 1992

Re: Mark's dependence on Luke

Please explain how Ben's thread presents "really clear arguments of Luke preceding Mark." Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark. That reader knowledge is material in Luke's Gospel. Ockham says the simplest explanation is the best, Luke was being read by readers now reading Mark. Sure, ...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 65
Views: 1473

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Venetia Anastasapoulou writes on p.12 of her report, which I imagine you have, if not I can post the page): That could be helpful. Thanks! I would also benefit from having a better photograph. Yes, a better image would help, and perhaps some more experienced palaeographers participating in the disc...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 65
Views: 1473

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Let me say again that I am no expert and can bring only an eye for detail and an attempt to understand what I'm seeing. With regard to the final sigmas on these lines: https://akma.disseminary.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/SecretMark.pdf 10 Ἰησοῦς τὸ µυστήριον τῆς βασιλείας τοῦ Θεοῦ. Ἐκεῖθεν δὲ ἀνα...