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Bilby says that BeDuhn has achieved a happy "via media" between more limited reconstructions (he mentions Roth and von Harnack at around 4,000 words) and more expansive (over 10,000 words in Nicolotti, Klinghardt, Hahn, and Zahn). I'm not sure that word counts is a standard, but the point...

The following is emphasised differently by me, ie. I've removed Charles' and added my own MrMacSon -- A good suggestion. Some time ago, I speculated on something like this awhile back: Tacitus, Histories, Book 3: "All other nations were equally restless. A sudden outbreak had been excited in Po...

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:04 am I also find it incredible that Acts pretends Paul was a former Pharisee. Like hearing Hugh Hefner was celibate. Paul thought the destruction of the temple was clearing the way for the true religion.

Yeah, that is incredible.

Paul wrote for the gentiles. Significant key apsects of what Paul wrote was to diss 'Judaism': at a time when 'Judaism' was a lot more diverse than is commonly recognised. I kind of/mostly agree with this: No. That's what the orthodox say. Doesn't make any sense. The Marcionites said he wrote for t...

Hebrews pre-70 1 / priority of John 1,2 could be an interesting alternative in that scenario. And the priority of the Book of Revelation 1 Hebrews (+/- John or Revelation) need not be pre-70, either (but it wouldn't matter if they were) 2 the book attributed to 'John' might be preceded by the epist...

You gotta love Andrei Orlov. One issue I see, though, is that Hekhalot literature as written texts are rather late (near the end of the Roman hegonomy over the east) Sure, but Peter Schäfer and Orlov both situate the genesis of the concept of 'Two Powers in Heaven' in the pre-Christian era: in the ...

Andrei A. Orlov notes in a chapter in the book, Wisdom Poured Out Like Water: Studies on Jewish and Christian Antiquity in Honor of Gabriele Boccaccini, De Gruyter, 2018: Andrei A. Orlov 23  Two Powers in Heaven… Manifested Introduction In recent decades there has been an increased scholarly interes...

This one (3-4 mths ago) with Jack B, Mark Bilby, Jason BeDuhn and Markus Vinzent is interesting (though might not touch on Ignatius)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWfQEGQeaXU

I don't know about Paul "being" Marcion. But really it's hard to say much about any of this. I mean it's not even clear if Marcion was a real person. Sure (it's speculative). But one could also make the claim that Paul was not a real person: Paul, Marcion, and most of the figures in the P...

Irenaeus tells us of the Marcosian (followers of Mark) interpretation of the latter chapters of Daniel ... Abarbanel remembers something that might explain the Marcionite interest in the epithet "strange/stranger" for Jesus. Abarbanel (c. 1500 CE) writes the following: ... The Gematria of...