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- Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
....well, Marcion's gospel is staring us right in the face whenever we look at the synoptic gospels. It's all there, and always has been, we just don't quite know exactly which bits. But if you threw a dart at either Mark, Luke, or even Matthew, chances are you'd be hitting some part of the Evangel...
- Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Monarchianism, Sabellianism, and Arianism
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Subordinationism and Arianism
Subordinationism is a doctrine wherein the Son is subordinate to the Father, not only in submission and role, but with actual ontological subordination to varying degrees. It can be trinitarian, ie. when it includes the Holy Spirit. Virtually all main orthodox theologians prior to the Arian controv...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Irenaeus Against Heresies III.1.1: ... [the apostles]...preaching the glad tidings of the good things [sent] from God to us... the Gospel of God. Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect , while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Maybe Eusebius's Eccl. hist. III.39.16 - especially the first half - is accurate, viz. But concerning Matthew he [Papias] writes as follows: " So then Matthew wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language, and every one interpreted them as he was able ." And the same writer uses testimonies fro...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
fwiw somewhat in relation to Eusebius's Eccl. hist . 3.39.15, attributed to Papias, but also independently; Irenaeus Against Heresies III.1.1: We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Alternatively, "Luke" was chosen as a pseudonym as a counter [ to] the tradition of "Mark" being an associate of Paul and involved in writing his gospel ... And "Mark" had [his] association with Paul obscured by [a subsequently narrated] association with Peter. Snap. i...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
3 . Its Anti-Marcionite. What you should be reading is Mark and Luke, not the nameless Evangelion.[/color] If it were really Paul's gospel, surely he 1 would have mentioned it no? 1 What do you mean by this? Who's 'he' there? " He " is Paul . Recall, Marcion is trying to claim the mantle ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Side note: Interesting that Mark is associated with Paul, not Peter. I would interpret this as evidence that the final recension of the NT happened before Papias was able to write up that bit about Mark being Peter's translator and author of Peter's gospel. We only have Eusebius's [and Irenaeus's] ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
According to my hobbyhorse, these would have been put there by the redactor of the first recension of the canonical NT. They serve several purposes: 1. they [Mark and Luke] are both associated with T HE apostle, Paul. Over and over. Repeatedly. But they're not repeatedly associated with The Apostle...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
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Re: 'John Mark'
Acts 12 :12: And when [Peter] had considered the thing, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark; where many were gathered together praying. Acts 12 :25 And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem, when they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John, who...