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by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This Title
Replies: 49
Views: 30495

Re: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This T

There seems to be some disagreement regarding how to translate three passages in Clement of Alexandria. This disagreement may go back to a difference in reading the Greek: https://books.google.com/books?id=Ltmf-rvYpfQC&pg=PA141 And that disagreement might go back to a difference in reading the n...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This Title
Replies: 49
Views: 30495

Re: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This T

The literature doesn't reveal any special pattern regarding a "kind god" (Chrestos Theos / xrhstos qeos), except for the notice that should be given to the statements in the Septuagint that "the Lord is good." http://studybible.info/interlinear/Psalms%2034:8 It may have some mean...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:30 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Good God (Agathos Theos)
Replies: 9
Views: 3772

Re: The Good God (Agathos Theos)

Good point.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This Title
Replies: 49
Views: 30495

Re: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This T

Andrew Criddle recently mentions this passage in another context (the Anthropos ). http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book1.html Irenaeus, Book 1, Chapter 15, Section 2 But Jesus, he affirms, has the following unspeakable origin. From the mother of all things, that is, the first Tet...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This Title
Replies: 49
Views: 30495

Re: What Did Chrestos Mean to the Christians Who Used This T

This guy had some ideas about 'Chrestos':

J. B. Mitchell
Chrestos: A Religious Epithet; Its Import and Influence
https://archive.org/stream/chrestosareligi00mitcgoog

I've added it to the big list:

http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/view ... f=7&t=1338
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:32 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Pentateuch Written According to Kabbalah
Replies: 22
Views: 36926

Re: The Pentateuch Written According to Kabbalah

Is the author doing more than being clever? Does he see these as "messianic" and see their reference as something other than King David? I guess 'messianic' is the wrong or misleading term because this has NOTHING to do with David. Is 'Mosianic' a word? It's just about Moses and his frien...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:22 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Good God (Agathos Theos)
Replies: 9
Views: 3772

Re: The Good God

Some commentary on the non-Christian references: (1) Philochorus and Athenaeus -- to the Good Deity (here, Bacchus) (2) Plutarch -- the Good God and the Evil Daemon (Zoroastrianism), Mithras as "Mediator" (3) Pausanias -- Temple of the Good God (4) Corpus Hermeticum -- The Blessed God, the...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:39 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Good God (Agathos Theos)
Replies: 9
Views: 3772

Re: The Good God

Be thankful that this is already an edited collection and that I gathered the translations for the few in the first two posts.

If it is of no interest, that is fine.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Good God (Agathos Theos)
Replies: 9
Views: 3772

Re: The Good God

This contains a good discussion: https://books.google.com/books?id=qOdBzAuuFJwC&pg=PA717 Reference to the "Good Daemon" when drinking wine was, apparently, a Greek practice. Notice that the "Good Daemon" appears in the Corpus Hermeticum, there identified with the "Blesse...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:46 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Good God (Agathos Theos)
Replies: 9
Views: 3772

Re: The Good God

And here are some more (unmatched with translations... something that would line up translations would be amazing...) Clemens Alexandrinus Theol., Stromata Book 3, chapter 5, section 43, subsection 2, line 4 μονα εἶναι καὶ τὴν τοῦ σώματος κολακείαν <μὴ> ἐπαισχύνεσθαι· οὐδὲ γὰρ συνᾴδειν ποτὲ δύναται ...