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- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Smith had been previously searching manuscripts. At Mar Saba he went to catalog books not manuscripts, though not a librarian nor bibliographer? And just happened to find a manuscript in a book near his last day? Coincidence? What are you trying to say? What do you mean by "At Mar Saba he went...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
So you don't see anything wrong with this argument? Nothing? It passes your critical thinking checks?StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:26 pm In some degree---cumulatively. If you had a note about Clement, would you note it with Clement or with Ignatius.
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
"If a monk wanted to record "Clement" why not do it instead in the Clement edition owned in Mar Saba?" I already supported this today. The 1715 two-volume folio edition of Clement attested at Mar Saba would be a much more plausible place to annotate a Clement addition then in a ...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
"MS got early liturgy wrong." Wrong for what fit Clement in Egypt. This, supported from, iirc, Robin Jenson (a Columbia grad, I think), and Peter Jeffrey, an early liturgy specialist, and a colleague prof of Smith's at Columbia. How does this support your opinion of the authorship of the ...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
What exactly did they "know" and how can we verify that this shows that he was "capable of this hoax"?StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:20 pm Scholem, Nock, Lieberman, Gaster, and at least a couple of his students knew he was capable of this hoax.
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
And, please, don't deflect.
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
- Replies: 42
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
You've represented your own position, SG.StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:58 pm Smith was a Christianity lover, then a Christianity hater.
Sure, I defend that statement.
Why misrepresent my position?
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
- Replies: 42
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
These ARE sound arguments, imo. I defend them all. Ariel Sabar has given (Atlantic, April) relevant biographical information for his turn against religion and academic disappointments. Why do you believe that this is a sound argument for your opinion on the authorship of the document? His Harvard s...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Again, do you believe that any of these statements represent a sound argument for your opinion on the authorship of the document? If so, which and why?
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
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Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
If you have 18 or so sound arguments, surely you can try to defend at least one?