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Gday all, I earlier posted about Carrier's Background to Christianity here : http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=687&p=14642#p14642 Here is the second part to that series of Elements: the Context as he calls it : I post a brief summary of each element as before - Carrier goes ...

... Carrier on the Mystery cults Notes " 121. Plutarch. On Isis and Osiris 1.351c and 351 f (this Clea was also the dedicatee of his book on The Bravery of Women 1.242e-f). Another discourse on this topic was delivered by Maximus of Tyre, in his fourth oration. "Poetry and Philosophy on th...

... Carrier on the Mystery Cults, part2 "The gospel story found in Mark, for example, could have begun as a set of mythic models for common Christian rituals and realities such as baptism and the Eucharist and facing persecution and martyrdom and per­forming miracles of healing, exorcism and pr...

Gday GakuseiDon, Here is the section from Carrier's OHJ that is most relevant to Osiris : Carrier on the Mystery Cults Part1 " Element 14 : Mystery cults spoke of their beliefs in public through myths and allegory, which symbolized a more secret doctrine that was usually rooted in a more esoter...

... Carrier on Acts as Historical Fiction Part2 " The author of Acts also uses features of the John the Baptist narrative to construct Paul's conversion story: (1) the names of John (the Baptist) and Ananias (who restores Paul's sight) mean the same thing in Aramaic (John = io-utmes = yahu-hana...

Gday folks, Thanks for your comments gents, I'll do a little more quoting of Carrier, but will probably stop before I hit 10% - which is the only figure mentioned in any semi-relevant context. Here is Carrier on Acts as Historical Fiction : Carrier on Acts as Historical Fiction Part 1 "The book...

Gday all, I've decided 10% is the limit, so I have room for quoting a little more, perhaps even from suggestions here - should I perhaps do Carrier on Josephus or Carrier on the Rank-Raglan Hero type ? Carrier on Acts ? Requests welcome... Kapyong Hate to be a killjoy but my understanding of the 10%...

Gday all, For ease of reference, here is my index of Carrier quotes that I have posted here : Carrier's minimal Jesus theories (mythical and historical) : http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=687&start=130#p14503 Carrier's Background Elements to Christianity : http://earlywriti...

Gday, MrMack said : Does Carrier say that [Tacitus got his information from Pliny]? "And neither does the infor­mation recorded by Pliny" According to the quote posted by Kapyong he does... Yes, here is Carrier's key sentence : "Thus the fact that Pliny discovered what Christians prea...

Gday, A request for Kapyong! Could you post up the section on Tacitus from OHJ, please? Here you go :) Carrier on Pliny and Tacitus "We can see Josephus is a wash. That leaves only two other authors who wrote before 120 CE that actually mention Jesus (or at least, Christ): Pliny the Younger and...