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by MrMacSon
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Two Powers in Heaven
Replies: 26
Views: 984

Re: Two Powers in Heaven

Andrei A. Orlov notes in a chapter in the book, Wisdom Poured Out Like Water: Studies on Jewish and Christian Antiquity in Honor of Gabriele Boccaccini, De Gruyter, 2018: Andrei A. Orlov 23  Two Powers in Heaven… Manifested Introduction In recent decades there has been an increased scholarly interes...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
Replies: 35
Views: 785

Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius

This one (3-4 mths ago) with Jack B, Mark Bilby, Jason BeDuhn and Markus Vinzent is interesting (though might not touch on Ignatius)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWfQEGQeaXU
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
Replies: 27
Views: 406

Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part)?

I don't know about Paul "being" Marcion. But really it's hard to say much about any of this. I mean it's not even clear if Marcion was a real person. Sure (it's speculative). But one could also make the claim that Paul was not a real person: Paul, Marcion, and most of the figures in the P...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isaac Abarbanel and Marcion
Replies: 1
Views: 64

Re: Isaac Abarbanel and Marcion

Irenaeus tells us of the Marcosian (followers of Mark) interpretation of the latter chapters of Daniel ... Abarbanel remembers something that might explain the Marcionite interest in the epithet "strange/stranger" for Jesus. Abarbanel (c. 1500 CE) writes the following: ... The Gematria of...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Even Joseph Turmel concluded that Matthew had falsified *Ev
Replies: 23
Views: 422

Re: Even Joseph Turmel concluded that Matthew had falsified *Ev

Just thinking through this: 1. Marcion claims to have the original Gospel preached by Paul. Creator God of Judaism is not the true God. No attribution to the Gospel other than perhaps 'Paul'. 2. Proto-orthodox then take that Gospel, assign attribution to Luke, a follower of Paul, 1 and then add 'Ju...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
Replies: 27
Views: 406

re: Was Paul Marcion?

Yes I think so. I think Paul was Mark and somehow the name "Marcion" is derived from Mark perhaps owing to it being a diminutive. But hard to prove. Cheers. I have had the Markion = Mark thing in mind for a while. And the idea that Markion priority vs Mark priority might well be a false d...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
Replies: 27
Views: 406

Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?

Could some, much, most or even all the accounts of Paul be accounts about Marcion? or mostly about a Marcionite? The shipping expeditions, etc,? The references to other teachings may be references to subsequent orthodox teachers? Even Peter and James (& John) - who Paul disses - may represent or...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: BeDuhn: Marcion's instrumentum as "Charter Documents"
Replies: 6
Views: 194

Re: BeDuhn: Marcion's instrumentum as "Charter Documents"

From Jason Beduhn, "Marcion's Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?", New Testament Studies (March 2017), issue #2, volume 63, pp. 324-329. What then explains this peculiar selection 1 that first Marcion and then his opponents considered Christian scripture? ... 1 to clar...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
Replies: 5
Views: 197

Re: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31

... Hays provides a very detailed analyses with good examples of Paul's inventive use of the scriptures. imo, Paul seems to be very 'inventive' in his use (and perhaps misuse) of the Hebrew scriptures, as you note with: Paul's creative and generative use of the scriptures WRT - “In Paul we encounte...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
Replies: 5
Views: 197

Other references to covenant in Paul

Other references to covenant in Paul https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?search=Covenant+&version=NIV&searchtype=all&spanbegin=52&spanend=60 1 Cor 11:25 in context: 23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took ...