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by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 11:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32389

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

Peter, Thanks for the link concerning Justin Martyr, and I will consider the idea that creedal statements are generally similar across the board. Though I don't buy the idea that Josephus used Luke or that Luke and Josephus used a common source, it's the idea that Luke used Josephus in other cases ...
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32389

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

Peter, Thanks for the links. I didn't see anything in them concerning Justin Martyr, though I did find a reference via the second link that compares the TF to (among other things) "Dialogue," but this is said to refer to something called "Dialogue: Religious Dialogue at the Sassanid ...
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 10:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32389

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

The Annals are from Tacitus. No, I personally haven't enough time and interest to start building the demonstration of it here and now, but that doesn't change anything. The Annals are from Tacitus. The only thing that is needed is for people with sound mind and knowledge to publish online in order t...
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 10:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32389

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

Goldberg's observation that the TF has parallels with the Emmaus narrative in Luke 24:19-27. Paul Hopper's thesis incidentally would explain this , as well as another 'parallel' in Justin Martyr.* Credal summaries would tend to be similar in outline. * http://www.textexcavation.com/testimonium.html
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 9:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44076

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

Or if you only care about the mysterious weird contradiction, you could at least quote the passages of Romans that are supposed to contradict 1 Cor 5:7 and thus be all mysterious and weird.
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 9:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44076

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

Secret Alias wrote:So it's up in the air whether (a) Paul believes in the scriptures
No.

I don't care about your feelings of entitlement, however.

Let us know when you have something. Like a better explanation.
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44076

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

he didn't give a flying fuck. Almost impossible. Paul gives us every other reason to believe that (a) he believes in the scriptures and (b) that he was an observant Jew previous to being a Christian. And you think you know what all of that implies. That's your problem. It's not an inherent problem....
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 9:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44076

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

Well then, looks like you'll have to get over your own personal hangups about mixing the two. That's you. That's not your sources. All you. I am not sure it comes down to a 'hang up.' Intellectual probity demands we understand what we are dealing with. The Marcionites thought Paul wrote the gospel....
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 8:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44076

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

elements that are not really in Paul (= emphasis ... on Yom Kippur) Not true Romans is developed from the Yom Kippur sacrifice and the authorship of Hebrews is up in the air Well then, looks like you'll have to get over your own personal hangups about mixing the two. That's you. That's not your sou...
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 8:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32389

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

his account of the Jewish War is not based on Flavius Josephus . This would be a very salient point, in the context of this thread. What you have highlighted does not seem to contradict the point I've made in this thread (which is that a name would most likely have been used if it were known as the...