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- Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Agathobulus, Rheus Agathopus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5617
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Agathobulus, Rheus Agathopus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5617
Re: Agathobulus, Rheus Agathopus
Tangential interjection from an under-informed person: My actual first name is David. This may 'mean' things that have nothing to do with me, especially if you ask my wife. Were names in the NT, for example, or as here in early Christianity, given and used for more symbolic or titular reasons? My im...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
If you meant the latter, and were using the word archetype in a non-historical or mythical sense, I might disagree. Religion, especially a new cult or group, is more the playground of the deluded average Joe, imo (or possibly the deluded charismatic Joe). New ones, started by real people (usually me...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:07 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
archibald Maybe it is simply inherent in the role of "Rebel, the archetype" to combine in one figure: - a vision of a better world if the rebellion succeeds, with - a gritty realism about what needs to be done to "make the world safe for" whatever the vision is Religion is the p...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:53 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
Yes. It seems to me to be at least as plausible as almost any of the theories.
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
Paul the Uncertain, I agree. I hope my belated final short paragraph above (about dual natures) made it on-screen before you replied. I could also cite our local political party Sinn Fein, with whom there are many parallels, not least that they are and have always beeen about freeing their little co...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ide
Ok, but I was referring to the 'love and pacifism' Jesus appearing in either Einhorn's thesis or an alternative 'time shift' one ... Like [Rabbi] Joshua ben Hananiah? (d. 131 a.d) I am unfamiliar. Would he fit the bill? I suppose, because I am inclined to prefer the idea that this apparently more '...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
One more thought before I hit the sack. This idea that a pacifist or non-politically partisan Jesus would be an oddity during a time of troubles. I think this can be taken too far. As someone who lived, from age 12 onwards, in Belfast, in the middle of 'The Troubles', I can say that not only is the...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
I remain curious as to where the 'love and pacifism' Jesus came from, in either possible scenario (Einhorn's concealed 'actual rebel figure', or a completely invented figure). I find it hard to imagine that it was just thought up as a foil (in the first scenario), or 'just thought up' in the second...
- Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
- Replies: 113
- Views: 114718
Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas
One more thought before I hit the sack. This idea that a pacifist or non-politically partisan Jesus would be an oddity during a time of troubles. I think this can be taken too far. As someone who lived, from age 12 onwards, in Belfast, in the middle of 'The Troubles', I can say that not only is the...