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by GakuseiDon
Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How do we know X existed?
Replies: 197
Views: 29702

Re: How do we know X existed?

Compare this: Part of the answer: No, Bayes is not used by historians to determine if X existed. All Bayes can do is assess the probability of a hypothesis. Historians don't build their hypotheses on "persons who probably existed" and "events that probably happened". ... with thi...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

You are looking for something that doesn't exist and I told you what does exist and what historians work with. So there are no comparable cases to Jesus that non-biblical historians have examined. Got you. In your opinion, is there enough information for historians to evaluate Paul's letters, for e...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
Replies: 28
Views: 4008

Re: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul

Thanks, MrMacSon. Is there something in that video that is pertinent to the question? They seem to assume that Paul is consistent with the mainstream with regards to my four points in the OP.
by GakuseiDon
Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
Replies: 28
Views: 4008

Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul

This is a continuation of ideas from here: https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9194&p=134623#p134623 I guess most of us on this board agree that the biblical scholars' evaluation of Biblical materials -- Old Testament, New Testament, the Church Fathers' -- has been coloured b...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

Actually, I'll start a separate thread on what I'm asking. It is part of the implications of the primacy of Marcion's Gospel, but the concepts deserve their own consideration. Neil is most welcome to join in! It least for his first three responses! :cheers:
by GakuseiDon
Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

GDon, instead of complaining that you are being "personally attacked" when I point out that you have clearly not read a single one of the posts you claimed to be addressing, and for misleadingly appearing to claim I said things I never said, simply move on, go back and read them, then res...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

Sigh sigh sigh. GDon, andrewcriddle, and now mlinssen Welcome to the club, mlinssen! :cheers: There are many of us here now. Unfortunately I forgot the chief advice of our club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU A good rule of thumb: you get about 3 good responses from Neil, and then he m...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

I scolding GDon for outrageously misrepresenting, no, for DISrepresenting the post of my first link, I had a sleep and woke up feeling more saintly: perhaps the good fellow made an mistake in saying it was the " first link" to which he was referring. Maybe it was one of the other. So I ch...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical?
Replies: 22
Views: 2730

Re: Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical?

Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical? Dr Carrier doesn't believe so, at least for his mythicist theory. Carrier appears to agree with the consensus of biblical scholars. As Carrier writes in his OHJ, page 260-1: The curr...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Replies: 181
Views: 24806

Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity

Just to briefly expand on an earlier point: In my younger days I used to debate against creationists. Creationists believe the whole field of evolutionary science is biased and filled with bad arguments. "A field in crisis!" is the common complaint. Creationists believe that Stephen Jay Go...