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- Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
DiMattei is drawing an important distinction here. Just because someone's image was radically changed after their death doesn't mean that they didn't exist. Sure - but historicity requires evidence. If the Jesus historicists would only rest their case on Jesus having existed and drop their claim fo...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:06 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Yeah, I'm having trouble seeing how DiMattei differs from the mythicist position. He basically grants all the key arguments and then insists mythicism is absurd. It's rather frustrating to have a discussion with someone whose conclusions don't follow from his arguments. Yep - perhaps the man is alm...
- Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
maryhelena: If one asserts a historical Jesus, a Jesus that somehow or another relates in someway to the gospel Jesus, srd44” These are 2 different claims. Asserting a Jew named Joshua existed in the 1c. century and asserting that this Jew relates to how he was conceptualized by writers living decad...
- Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
I have said that lack of knowledge, lack of evidence, does not mean that such and such a figure that one may postulate, was not in fact a living breathing human figure. However, that does not translate into that figure being granted the designation 'a historical figure'. For that designation one ha...
- Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
You're not even listening. 1) WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE GOSPEL STORY!! You continually fall back on the gospel story vis-a-vis a historical or non-historical Jesus. I'm not discussing that. 2) I want to uphold to epistemological tools??? Unreal. I'm asking do we have the epistemological tools to ...
- Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:34 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
I’m not conflating 2 separate issues at all! Methinks that it’s you that are assuming that a Jesus, “ whom we know nothing about” existed as a historical, flesh and blood, figure. You are taking a leap from the gospel Jesus story to a Jesus of history. You have no justification for doing this. Ther...
- Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:24 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Again, I think the real question, and more interesting one is: how and why did the Jesus of the gospels get created. Further.... and this is one of the core things to the religious experience, there doesn't have to have been any historical Jesus for Christianity to exist, since Christianity is buil...
- Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114769
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Again, I think the real question, and more interesting one is: how and why did the Jesus of the gospels get created. Further.... and this is one of the core things to the religious experience, there doesn't have to have been any historical Jesus for Christianity to exist, since Christianity is buil...
- Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
- Replies: 571
- Views: 320227
Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
MC's book would be rejected out of hand by any professional organization for lacking a professional quality introduction. Who peer reviewed this book, the historical Jesus? The introduction is so bad it just makes me not want to read the rest of the book. Joseph ErrancyWiki The book is just a rant ...
- Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:46 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
- Replies: 571
- Views: 320227
Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Yes, personal information that was/is totally unnecessary for any scholarly debate on JC. He has done the same with other people as well.......including Neil Godfrey - who is "apparently Australian". Casey has gone after the man instead of playing the ball.....He does not like the message...