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Seems like Enoch is relatively neglected here for its influence on the Gospels. Or maybe just since Ben left.

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Here I will simply quote the first paragraph of (c) in its entirety. If Marcion was neither the editor of an older text nor the original author of *Ev, what was his role? How did the separation from the Roman congregation occur? What appears most obvious is that the heresiologists' association of M...

It seems to me that Klinghardt must be arguing that copyists of canonical Luke altered the readings in Luke in places to a different reading (which according to Klinghardt were from the Evangelion). Klinghardt’s argument for the persistence of *Ev in the Western textual tradition is in chapter 5, b...

@Ken Do you mean what explains these variant readings? Or, what theory of the composition, redaction, and transmission of the Gospel manuscript tradition is the best explanation for the evidence that we have? You keep using words like “origin” and “original” in ways that seem to presuppose your own ...

lclapshaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:55 pm

Irish1975 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:10 pm Regulars will have surmised I was being semi-satirical in the title and OP; ho hum.

Don't feel too bad, no one laughed at my Tertullian joke either. :/

oh yeah, all good

ἐπὶ γυμνοῦ is superfluous if Mark were simply saying, he wore linen, or he wore a linen tunic, shirt, etc. Instead it’s, he wore a linen cloth over his nakedness. It can be so hard to recognize sexual subject matter in the scriptures, since these matters are hardly found in the Biblical world; but h...

If Marcion utilized the Gospel (which I understood to be the *Ev mentioned earlier in the sentence), then it follows that *Ev existed before Marcion utilized it. Ehh. K’s statement allows that Marcion might have composed it before he “utilized” it. It would be silly to extrapolate from this one sin...

Regulars will have surmised I was being semi-satirical in the title and OP; ho hum. Nonetheless, the topic presents interesting questions from any perspective. And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: And he left ...

PS Klinghardt states a rule of thumb on p. 2.1168 'the reading furthest removed from the canonical text is more likely original'. I suppose that if you take that as your rule you will come to the conclusion that *Ev is prior to the canonical gospels. Examining pp. 1168-69, it is not hard to see tha...