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Please don't think I'm not listening to or valuing your points

I see each NT document as a shotgun blast of doctrine running from the mid first to late second century.

Universal as in

1 Thessalonians 5.27: 27 I adjure you by the Lord to have this letter read to all the brethren

This has quite possibly become part of a traveling collection at this point of redaction. Thessalonica appears to not be the only church with eschatology issues.

And for me I see the suspicion in the liturgy because that's where all doctrines are harmonized. We all know the last supper with the bread and wine and resulting eucharist, yet what do we find in the eastern church, the mixing of water with wine in the cup. We also know some groups used water to th...

I guess I'm just suspicious of these 'universal' encyclicals given the history of pseudoepigraphy, forgery, interpolating, and rewriting of these early texts (and the OT). I can just imagine (granted not an argument in and of itself) of elders showing up at a church with unapproved doctrines and sho...

The quickest I can remember without an explicit reference but may be familiar enough is the book of the law that Israel never followed but a priest found in the temple and was commanded to be read anew by Josiah iirc. I've been listening to the OT read aloud during my overly long commute and the pen...

I dont think its so much about any particular position so much as the imperative to read it in the congregation, not like that wasn't going to be done anyway, much like the constant references in the OT to read this new thing in the congregation under such and such's authority, IOW an updated unders...

@dch: There's no neat ancestral line in anything from Christianty's inception to imperial advocation at Nicea though

Yes to your first response granted I haven't read the original argument and only have Price's 2-3 sentence summary. But my impression from his synopsis is that it's trying too hard, we know his Corinthian correspondees ( for example) would advocate his position, no need to be so over-the- top explic...

Gotta admit, the most I've gleaned from Avery's KJVonlyism, is that we shouldn't buy Tischendorf's story about paper kindling. Other than that the story sounds like a guy who bought a vintage 1977 Star Wars action figure at a garage sale and came back to buy the rest only to find his earlier enthusi...