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by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 64149

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Michael Stone has a new book on early Christianity as a secret society. I haven't read the book yet but I've read a lot about it. Celsus confirms this suggestion. But this changes the 'appropriateness' of knowledge of the tradition among contemporary witnesses. The closest example I can think of is ...
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Didn't Know This Was Controversial - Schools Get Rid of BC and AD
Replies: 37
Views: 31201

Re: Didn't Know This Was Controversial - Schools Get Rid of BC and AD

Piers Morgan is the editor of this paper and a Trumpite. They're always trying to stir up the old people.
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Replies: 51
Views: 29698

Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels

I have always consider the remarkable understanding (and connection with Justin's words) found in Clement's To Theodore too brilliant for a modern scholar like Morton Smith. Clement here says that the gospel of Mark was written from two sets of hypomnemata - a remarkable coincidence with Justin's se...
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Replies: 51
Views: 29698

Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels

The question for me has always been - if these texts described as 'hypomnemata' by Justin were the only versions of the gospel(s) known to Justin would he have described as such - viz. would he have called them 'hypomnemata'? This applies also for Hegesippus's work. When Josephus makes reference or ...
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Replies: 51
Views: 29698

Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels

Another meaning, which I have considered many times of the years, is that Justin knew there was something of an 'orthodox' or standardized text(s) of the gospel and Justin preferred a more primitive (in appearance at least) version of the gospel which he claimed stood behind this standardized text(s...
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Replies: 51
Views: 29698

Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels

Consider the use of the terminology here - http://papyri.info/ddbdp/p.cair.zen;3;59377 Could the term have been meant in the sense of 'summary' - the original sense of 'harmony' (viz. a summary because of harmonization of early sources)?
by Secret Alias
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Replies: 51
Views: 29698

Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels

Hypomnema could also be used in the sense of 'unfinished (work), notes' - not necessarily a memoir strictly speaking (or as I understand the term - perhaps incorrectly) but simply something short of a polished text. Perhaps - and again this is speculation - the fact that the text was transcribed in ...
by Secret Alias
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
Replies: 66
Views: 33494

Re: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark

Would Justin have recognized his own source as a 'gospel harmony'? Certainly not. Even modern scholars see the "harmonization" of Deuteronomy and Exodus in Qumran fragments and Samaritan Exodus as "harmonization." Our collective or inherited version of things is always "the...
by Secret Alias
Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
Replies: 66
Views: 33494

Re: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark

But we should always distinguish between 1. the citation of Markan material (i.e. material known to us from the 'Mark-part' of the four gospel canonical set) and 2. explicit citation that the material in question comes from a gospel named Mark according to the early Patristic witness Justin, for exa...