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by Secret Alias
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion
Replies: 13
Views: 15947

Re: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion

Yes there are some good one-liners. But let's stop and unpack that statement. Tertullian - or his source (i.e. Irenaeus) - starts from the position that there can only be one god. The fact the Marcionites have another CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED by a rejection of the one in favor of the other. We've been ...
by Secret Alias
Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?
Replies: 33
Views: 33076

Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

If you actually look at the passages where IS (ish) might appear in the Pentateuch (from Philo's commentary, Justin's etc) it appears that he could change his form. Look at the angelic 'man of God' of Joseph and Aseneth - he appears as Joseph. I think shapeshifting was a consistent feature of the an...
by Secret Alias
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?
Replies: 33
Views: 33076

Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

If we were to summarize the evidence it appears to be of a two fold nature - i.e. (i) gospel passages used to support the idea that Jesus could change his shape or nature (ii) evidence that secondary figures claimed to be Jesus and finally (iii) Patristic evidence that Jesus was in the Pentateuch. I...
by Secret Alias
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: where the Talmud denies the historical existence of Jesus
Replies: 6
Views: 6390

Re: where the Talmud denies the historical existence of Jesus

This isn't complicated: ישו דקרוב למלכות הוה Isu was close to the (Roman) government (kingdom). If a heavenly kingdom was meant (which the context does not seem to allow) a near parallel might be: Οὐ μακρὰν εἶ ἀπὸ τῆς βασιλείας But the gospel specifies it's the kingdom 'of God' (τοῦ Θεοῦ). The passa...
by Secret Alias
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion
Replies: 13
Views: 15947

Re: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion

And note what is generally agreed in Patristic scholarship: Eusebius picked up on this meaning with his comment that “Irenaeus, who was truly well-named, became a peacemaker in this matter, exhorting and negotiating on behalf of the peace of the churches.” So the story about Polycarp coming to Rome ...
by Secret Alias
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion
Replies: 13
Views: 15947

Re: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion

I will repost my original line of thought given it's superiority to the previous drivel: Another way of looking at it. The only person who is ever claimed to have seen Marcion is Polycarp. The source of the statement is Irenaeus but Irenaeus isn't our best source for information about Polycarp. If w...
by Secret Alias
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul as Mucianus
Replies: 4
Views: 6095

Re: Patristic One-Liners: Marcion

This stupid theory that you keep promoting in this forum since you came in. Why don't you take the opportunity for convincing us the most compelling argument for Paul as Mucianus? Go right ahead. AND HOW IS IT A CIPHER ? Do you even know what a cipher is? Cipher - 1. a secret or disguised way of wri...