This reference to Cerinthus together alongside Simon, "the false apostles," could indicate in favor of an early date for him.Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:11 pmOn further reflection, this is a fair point.billd89 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:46 pm The Epistle of the Apostles written about 160 AD would establish the personage as historical
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- Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Date of Marcion
- Replies: 14
- Views: 265
Re: The Date of Marcion
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Date of Marcion
- Replies: 14
- Views: 265
Re: The Date of Marcion
When do we date Marcion? Which of the reports of the events of his life, which come to us through hostile patristic authors, are reasonably accurate and when did they take place? I once wrote this. I realize this isn't a direct response to the question of whether Marcion was behind everything, but ...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 552
Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Leaving Giuseppe's example aside, are there any examples of texts expressing doubt of the historicity of Jesus I doubt that there are any such examples. But I can mention a couple places where the discussion has cropped up before. how mythicists are judged Here, Irish1975 provided a translation of ...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 62
- Views: 862
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
I am expecting an official withdrawal by Peter Kirby to see if he has given up finally to accuse Reinach of having misinterpreted Loisy by replacing 'archives' with 'Old Testament' You haven't demonstrated that you understand the difficulties with Reinach's argument. The last relevant thing you sai...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 99
- Views: 2056
Re: Mark's dependence on Luke
And that is what you believe.Steven Avery wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:09 am As I believe that Luke and Mark wrote early with direct sources, not picking up long-ago "oral traditions".
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 99
- Views: 2056
Re: Mark's dependence on Luke
(c) Nothing you've said does anything to identify which gospel should be presupposed in this prior-gospel hypothesis. Do you have an additional argument to say that a prior gospel here could not, for example, be Matthew? Comparing Luke and Matthew as sources for Mark, we have the ten or so reasons ...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 62
- Views: 862
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
It will be difficult to change the conversation if your focus when you write is truly only about convincing yourself.
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:20 pm
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Microplastics contaminate Archaeological Samples
- Replies: 1
- Views: 53
Re: Microplastics contaminate Archeological Samples
Thanks! This is a good place for it, as the catch-all history forum.
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:36 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 99
- Views: 2056
Re: Mark's dependence on Luke
Please explain how Ben's thread presents "really clear arguments of Luke preceding Mark." Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark. That reader knowledge is material in Luke's Gospel. Ockham says the simplest explanation is the best, Luke was being read by readers now reading Mark. Sure, ...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:16 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 65
- Views: 1481
Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Venetia Anastasapoulou writes on p.12 of her report, which I imagine you have, if not I can post the page): That could be helpful. Thanks! I would also benefit from having a better photograph. Yes, a better image would help, and perhaps some more experienced palaeographers participating in the disc...