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- Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
There is another possibility, not often aired (I say that while admitting I am not an expert who would know how often it is aired) that 'Paul' tailored his theology to his audience, in order to make it more absorbable by and acceptable to them. In this sense, it's his audience who may have been more...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
Yes, the idea that "Pauline/[Hellenistic] Christianity did not represent (and was in opposition to) a [prior] Judean (Jerusalem) movement" is probably more 'widely held' than I had realised. Though I have always attributed Hellenistic to 2nd Temple Judaism, either (a.i) as practiced befor...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
. Works that may be pertinent to an elaboration of Unterbrink's proposals about Paul and this thread's discussion of Paul are * Barker, Margaret. The Great Angel: A Study of Israel's Second God . Louisville, Ky.: Westminster John Knox, 1992. * Segal, Alan (2002) Two Powers in Heaven: Early Rabbinic...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:45 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
- Views: 63825
Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
[One of Unterbink's starting premise's is that,] in the very early days of the cult, Paul's preachings were at odds with those of an original and prior Jerusalem group of followers and that after Paul's version became the 'winner', the conflict was papered over. . That is the basis of a premise and...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
Is Carrier a mythicist? It seems to me that he has been very careful to not take a stance on this issue. As far as I can tell, he states that Paul and others like Philo may have thought the Christ was a celestial being but Carrier himself doesn't take a side. Imo, yes. I think he has been smart eno...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
- Views: 63825
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
Paul.
Hm.
Regarding the degree of arguably thinly-disguised emnity between his Preachings and the 'super apostles' ('super' as Koine Greek 'Aian' = eminent or very) one need only look at 2 Corinthians 11 v1-15, where he ends up going as far as to suggest that they are satan in disguise.
Hm.
Regarding the degree of arguably thinly-disguised emnity between his Preachings and the 'super apostles' ('super' as Koine Greek 'Aian' = eminent or very) one need only look at 2 Corinthians 11 v1-15, where he ends up going as far as to suggest that they are satan in disguise.
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
I bet the 'N'orn Irre'and' (sic) conflict was very complicated: so many intersections within and between both major categories. Yes. Nuances upon nuances. as a result, I tend to listen to news reports from, say, Israel, or Syria, or wherever, with a pinch of salt. I saw an article recently that a P...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
- Views: 63825
Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
I have wondered if he would not have wanted to upset the pro-Christian demographic he lives in -ie. the USA (particularly as a Muslim: if he had done a Carrier he might have had to leave the country). Possibly. Hard to say. As an immigrant...it's plausible. He says his family background was liberal...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:28 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
- Replies: 89
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Re: 'Judas of Nazareth' by Daniel Unterbrink
I checked. extensive bibliography but no mention, that I can see, of McLaren or Haaland. No mention throughout the text either, that I can recall.