Search found 116 matches

by theomise
Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Horizontal Synoptic Solution
Replies: 75
Views: 62994

Re: Horizontal Synoptic Solution

For those interested in my Jerusalem-vs-Galilee Hypothesis, I have not yet here stated one additional wrinkle. I have not encountered opposition to my theory that John 21 was very early, nor whether it was initially attached to Mark 16:1-8. (That is, no one has bothered to contest what I have been ...
by theomise
Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Christos" as reverse abbreviation for "archiereus megistos"
Replies: 4
Views: 4379

Re: "Christos" as reverse abbreviation for "archiereus megis

Do you know of a high-res, contemporary photo of that "Isu Chrestos" (Marcionite) inscription? Cant find an image yet. WIKI states the inscription is catalogued as follows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Ali Philippe Le Bas and William Henry Waddington, Greek Inscriptions grecques et ...
by theomise
Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity reconsidered: Jesus vs W.D. Fard
Replies: 20
Views: 14880

Historicity reconsidered: Jesus vs W.D. Fard

W.D. Fard strikes me as a noteworthy data point on the 'Haile Selassie' side of the historicity equation (in contraposition to John Frum, Ned Ludd, Romulus, et al.) In outline: The Nation of Islam appears to have been founded circa 1930 in Detroit by a white guy from New Zealand, W.D. Fard (possibly...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 114999

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

What are you thoughts on Paul? Did he exist? What do you think he thought about Jesus? Answering a question with a question ... well-played :cheeky: Here are my thoughts: if it turns out that Paul's letters are not indeed 'early' (i.e., not '1st century'), then I would drastically re-evaluate Mythi...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 114999

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

^Sure it's possible. Ancient history is not about certainty. But such "possibilities" cut both ways - could you acknowledge that it is POSSIBLE that what was edited/interpolated out of the Pauline corpus were more direct references to Jesus' family and specific earthly times and places th...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
Replies: 887
Views: 608149

Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?

. These authorities Princeton University Yale University Library and Archives Canada among others It matters, as you said, * " so we are understood and communicate with a common understanding " * " to the extent that we are understood by different audiences [or different people] on d...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:21 am
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Pythagorean Mythicism (i.e., did Pythagoras exist?)
Replies: 15
Views: 22311

Re: Pythagorean Mythicism (i.e., did Pythagoras exist?)

Socrates may be a literary character created by Plato. maryhelena has proposed recently that Josephus is a literary composite character. But Socrates is attested by other contemporary writers - Xenophon, Aristophanes, .... Plus, he was never deified and/or incorporated into a religious ritual. I'm ...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
Replies: 887
Views: 608149

Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?

'primary sources' has a defined meaning ; it is often used incorrectly. Best it is used correctly, or another term such as 'earliest mention', or 'first mention' is best used if the information is not contemporaneous :problem: OK, so what, exactly, would that 'correct' defined meaning be? And who, ...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 114999

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

^I suspect so. "Born of a woman under the law", "descendant of David" etc. does it for me. Bernard Muller has an excellent list of 10-15 Pauline references that I mostly agree with that seem to me to be best understood as referring to an Earthly Jesus (in Paul's eyes). I think E...
by theomise
Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 114999

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

^Is there something in particular about Ehrman's "How Jesus Became God" that you find particularly illogical, irrational or "faith"-based (other than that he starts with a historical figure which is fairly irrelevant to the larger topic)? The book is primarily about the percepti...