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We are all aware of Q as a hypothetical source used to explain overlaps between Matthew and Luke (usually) on the assumption that neither knew Mark. Most of us are probably also aware of arguments for various Ur-gospels that may figure into the synoptic problem. My question here is: what other text...

I'd transpose these (G.Matthew, G.Luke, G.John) ~70-80 yrs forward ie. mid 2nd century: ~120 AD/CE onwards Well, I am open to a late Gospels theory, but how do you fit the pieces together? How does G.Mark develop into the others? How do you fit in books like the Didakhe and Barnabas, say ? And Papi...

... I'd love to hear from anyone else giving us an example of a shorter and longer version of a text in early Christianity where the longer text is acknowledged to be the most original. My bet is that we can't find one (i.e. we can't find an example of large sections being 'cut out' of a given text...

I wonder if characters like Peter reflect 2nd century scenarios more than 1st century ones.

This is well stated - Here are some of the reasons I suspect a specifically Apellean provenance for the original GJohn: GJohn is a significantly different from the Synoptic gospels. Apelles — in contrast to Marcion who was accused of for the most part of cutting out parts of a synoptic gospel -- was...

Notice the parallel with the Pauline canon. The Muratorian order: To the Corinthians (51) first, to the Ephesians second, to the Philippians third, (52) to the Colossians fourth, to the Galatians fifth, (53) to the Thessalonians sixth, to the Romans (54-5) seventh. Our order takes the last epistle ...

... I'd love to hear from anyone else giving us an example of a shorter and longer version of a text in early Christianity where the longer text is acknowledged to be the most original. My bet is that we can't find one (i.e. we can't find an example of large sections being 'cut out' of a given text...

So I entered into this from the consensus position – one that neither Delafosse nor Loisy contested -- namely that the middle recension was authentic. At various points while writing the series I did consult the Syriac versions, but nothing I found there ever led me question the consensus regarding...

I thought most people accepted that anonymous is invariably a sign of originality. But not in this case. I find it far more believable that someone took an anonymous epistle broke it up and made it into many. This is what I think happened with the Pastorals FWIW. There are authentic nuggets in this...

.... Let's start with the Syriac 'abridgment.' It's not a fucking abridgment!!!! WTF is the matter with people? Here I lay out this fact: http://stephanhuller.blogspot.com/p/short-syriac-text-ignatius-who-is.html It's ridiculous to assume that some asshole decided to take stuff from the Catholic te...