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by Leucius Charinus
Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:15 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: The Invention of Money, Money in the Mediterranean Zone
Replies: 12
Views: 2255

Re: The Invention of Money, Money in the Mediterranean Zone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt:_The_First_5000_Years Debt: The First 5,000 Years is a book by anthropologist David Graeber published in 2011. It explores the historical relationship of debt with social institutions such as barter, marriage, friendship, slavery, law, religion, war and government....
by Leucius Charinus
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christian and/or Nonmythicist scholars who assert/asserted that the TF was entirely forged
Replies: 4
Views: 527

Re: Christian and/or Nonmythicist scholars who assert/asserted that the TF was entirely forged

Who are and were such people? Assembling such a list would be useful in refuting the claim that only atheists and mythicists think that the entire TF was forged. "A rank forgery, and a very stupid one, too" - Bishop Warburton of Gloucester, 1762. Testimonium Flavianum - A chronological su...
by Leucius Charinus
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguing Against the Church Fathers
Replies: 103
Views: 10329

Re: Arguing Against the Church Fathers

If the Church Fathers are our only source of information about early Christianity why do so many here arguing for another understanding of Christianity which is TOTALLY DIVORCED from the Church Fathers? Is that even likely? A possibly relevant "response" from Mario Liverani . . . . Lazine...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians
Replies: 65
Views: 7075

Re: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians

Anyone else seen all this before? It goes nowhere. Here's what most people may have seen before. Biblical scholarship of various flavors presenting various items listed above in the OP as evidence in support of the historicity of Jesus and the Christians. Sorry for striking out Jesus but the OP is ...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians
Replies: 65
Views: 7075

Re: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians

Some discussion on some of the items listed in the OP. Non-Christian Literature pp.5-6 Richard Carrier helpfully states that “ Christians were shameless liars, and ancient Christian forgery (and document meddling) was rampant ” [10]. The historian Arnaldo Momigliano more helpfully recounts that “one...
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians
Replies: 65
Views: 7075

Re: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians

What about non-manuscript evidence ? Christian artifacts, inscriptions, catacombs ? The archeology and physical manuscripts are dealt with separately in accordance to the map of the evidence linked above, along with a description of the map which is reproduced below. Obviously all this evidence has...
by Leucius Charinus
Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians
Replies: 65
Views: 7075

Non-Christian Literary Witnesses to the Historicity of Early Christians

In 1910 Arthur Drews published a study [1] of the non-Christian witnesses to the historicity of Jesus . Drews discussed the Jewish witnesses to Jesus such as Philo, Justus of Tiberias, Josephus and the Talmud. And then the Roman witnesses such as Pliny, Suetonius and Tacitus. Drew’s study examined t...
by Leucius Charinus
Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why does Gabriele Boccaccini despise so strongly the mythicism?
Replies: 6
Views: 608

Re: Why does Gabriele Boccaccini despise so strongly the mythicism?

Does he compare mythicism to holocaust denialism like Bart?
by Leucius Charinus
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Chrest vs Christ: What does it mean?
Replies: 23
Views: 4530

Re: Jesus the Chrest - Nomina Sacra in the Nag Hammadi Library

https://www.academia.edu/84288595/Jesus_the_Chrest_Nomina_Sacra_in_the_Nag_Hammadi_Library Jesus the Chrest - Nomina Sacra in the Nag Hammadi Library //// There is a giant abundance of Chrest and Chrestians in Coptic texts when it is compared to the gaping void of Christ and Christians - and the ex...
by Leucius Charinus
Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguing Against the Church Fathers
Replies: 103
Views: 10329

Re: Arguing Against the Church Fathers

... If the NT / the early Christians / Church Fathers existed prior to the 4th century then there should be some evidence out there that supports and corroborates the proposition. What is this "early" and unambiguous Christian evidence? Provide that and I will relinquish my provisional co...