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by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism
Replies: 132
Views: 77820

Re: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism

Archaeology has not shown anything for Christianity in the first few centuries AD/CE: other than some of the Seven churches of Asia used to belong to a different religion. Not familiar with this. Can you provide a reference please? Here - Serapia in Turkey Pergamon Inside Pergamon in Bergama, there...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's "intended" ending
Replies: 47
Views: 24543

Re: Mark's "intended" ending

... there seem to be separate traditions at work. Highly likely This is interesting - Regarding Galilee, that's actually where the Jewish leadership moved after the fall of Jerusalem, which means that this may be an echo of this. because of this - Some ...think that the name of the city [of 'Nazare...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

By all means suggest other narratives but support them with Jewish history. Why?? The gospel narratives don't have to be based on history... Well - that truly says it all......and mythicists wonder why they never get a hearing from NT scholars... :eek: I mean't not all the gospel narratives - and t...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

By all means suggest other narratives but support them with Jewish history. Why?? The gospel narratives don't have to be based on history... As regards Antigonus and the gospel crucifixion story - you would have to demonstrate that a King of the Jews was executed by Rome later than the date for Ant...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

[color=#004000]maryhelena[/color] wrote: .. history tells us that a Jewish insurrectionist movement did not fail - it succeeded, albeit for 3 short years of freedom from Rome.
MrMacSon wrote: What 3 yrs are you referring to here?
[color=#004000]maryhelena[/color] wrote: 40 - 37 b.c.e.
Cheers!
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

The gospel crucifixion story may well reflect "the Roman execution of Antigonus - the last real *King of the Jews* - in 37 b.c.e"; regardless of the other NT narratives, or the way they developed.
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

But history tells us that a Jewish insurrectionist movement did not fail - it succeeded, albeit for 3 short years of freedom from Rome. What 3 yrs are you referring to here? An euhemerized insurrectionist/seditious Pauline celestial christ figure that does not succeed against Rome fails to do justi...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

maryhelena wrote: I just notice when numbers are being used in the gospel story - and in Josephus.
How are the numbers being used? Similarly?
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

... - why on earth would a Pauline celestial christ figure be euhemerized as a Jewish insurrectionist, as a seditious figure....Yes, the gospel writers sought to, as it were, limit the damage a seditious Jesus was to their Prince of Peace ideal - but what justification would be on hand for euhermer...
by MrMacSon
Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
Replies: 30
Views: 13272

Re: Bermejo-Rubio: Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance

70 c.e. was 100 years from 30 b.c.e. when Herod put Hyrcanus II to death - 7 years after the Roman execution of Antigonus..... The Lukan writer is not the only writer to fit his story into specific time-slots. Josephus does likewise. The death of James between 62/63/64 c.e. is 100 years from the Ro...