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- Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
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Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
These do not seem to be available in English, and their contents seem to have largely been relayed by Detering I have found that work anything but credible. Its another conspiracy theory liken to wearing a tinfoil hat IMHO I'm with Gerd Ludemann on this What does Ludemann say? In ' The Fabricated P...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
- Views: 107552
Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
... for the sake of argument/theory, let's say this invention did occur and that the storyteller's name is preserved in the historical record. If we consider their means, motive, and opportunity. Who are our prime suspects? Marcion? Cerdo? Cephas? Ebion? Clement? Simon? Basilides? Paul? Cerinthus? ...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
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Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
It is likely the Pauline letters were written independently about another savior figure , and later redacted to align with the synoptic gospels and the other NT. Nothing you have ever been able to substantiate with any amount of credibility. There really is no evidence of later redaction to align w...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
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Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
The human aspects [of the NT Jesus character] could be related to a real preacher dude, but I would place that guy somewhere in the late 1st century to early-mid 2nd century. There could also be elements of counter-Roman revolutionaries such as * Judas the Galilean who lead the revolt during the Ce...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
- Views: 107552
Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
It is likely the Pauline letters were written independently about another savior figure, and later redacted to align with the synoptic gospels and the other NT.
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
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Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
The beginning and conclusion of Jesus's 'Parable of the Minas' in the Gospel of Luke chapter 19 may refer to Archelaus' journey to Rome, as told by Josephus ( Antiquities of the Jews , 17:11). Some interpreters conclude from this that Jesus' parables and preaching made use of events familiar to the ...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jesus?
- Replies: 127
- Views: 107552
Re: Top suspects that could have invented the historical Jes
Obviously it's speculative as to whether the idea of Jesus of Nazareth was invented or not, and even if so, the individual responsible may be totally lost to history. But for the sake of argument/theory, let's say this invention did occur and that the storyteller's name is preserved in the historic...
- Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:58 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!
- Replies: 28
- Views: 15649
Re: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!
Element 1. The earliest form of Christianity definitely known to us originated as a Jewish sect in the region of Syria-Palestine. Element 4. Palestine in early 1st C. CE was experiencing a rash of messianism. I'm pretty sure that the region was not called Palestine or Syria-Palaestinia until Hadria...
- Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Priority or Markan Priority?
- Replies: 52
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Re: Matthean Priority or Markan Priority?
. Ehrman, Bart D. (2016-03-01). Jesus Before the Gospels: How the Earliest Christians Remembered, Changed, and Invented Their Stories of the Savior . HarperCollins. Kindle Edition - "..all our references to the Gospels prior to the end of the second century ... are never named or associated wi...
- Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
- Replies: 121
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Re: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
. Neil Godfrey has noted on his Vridar.org blog that, in his " Jesus before the Gospels ", Bart Ehrman presented "the argument for the gospels being anonymous until towards 200 CE" - In short, the Gospel writers are all anonymous. None of them gives us any concrete information a...