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- Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
- Replies: 20
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Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
Though, I think the mention of Jesus ben Damneus in Ant . 20.203 could well have prompted a scribe (or outright forger) to think of introducing a or the Jesus into Ant . 20.200. Just to acknowledge that I did read this. I just don't find it provides a sufficient or comparable probability for a marg...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
- Replies: 20
- Views: 425
Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
τοῦ λεγομένου Χριστοῦ in the extant Ant . 20.200 is in Matthew 27:17 and 22 : as τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν (both in the mouth of Pilate ; see footnote 43 below) Matthew 1:16 : as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 John 4:25 : also as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 which, in footnote 39, List notes is . a passage about Jesus...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
- Replies: 20
- Views: 425
Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
The best interpolation hypothesis IMO remains the idea that a certain "James" was mentioned without providing an identifier. That is: if we go with an interpolation hypothesis, that is the one that would seem the most likely and easiest to defend. List's argument is, quote, 1) AJ 20.200 o...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:28 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Has anyone compiled a list of readings shared by Marcion's Evangelion with Mark and/or Matthew but not in Luke?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 199
Re: Has anyone compiled a list of readings shared by Marcion's Evangelion with Mark and/or Matthew but not in Luke?
I am wondering if anyone has compiled a list of Marcionite readings that differ from Luke, but agree with Mark and/or Matthew; or presented the text of the Evangelion with the Mark/Matthew agreements against Luke particularly marked. Klinghardt's The Oldest Gospel and the Formation of the Canonical...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John Granger Cook 2017 article on the Question of an Empty Tomb in 1 Corinthians 15
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John Granger Cook 2017 article on the Question of an Empty Tomb in 1 Corinthians 15
John Granger Cook (2017) 'Resurrection in Paganism and the Question of an Empty Tomb in 1 Corinthians 15,' New Testament Studies , 63 (1); pp.56-75 Abstract On the basis of the semantics of ἀνίστημι and ἐγείρω and the nature of resurrected bodies in ancient Judaism and ancient paganism, one can con...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn’s Greek Reconstruction of Marcion’s Gospel
- Replies: 23
- Views: 444
Re: BeDuhn’s Greek Reconstruction of Marcion’s Gospel
Klingardt's reconstruction of *Ev in his 2020 English version (of his 2015 German two-volume book) is [also] in Greek eta This: Bilby is clear about what is conflated in his versions of Klinghardt and of Nicolotti: https://openhumanitiesdata.metajnl.com/articles/10.5334/johd.70 "Our normalized ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn’s Greek Reconstruction of Marcion’s Gospel
- Replies: 23
- Views: 444
Re: BeDuhn’s Greek Reconstruction of Marcion’s Gospel
Bilby says that BeDuhn has achieved a happy "via media" between more limited reconstructions (he mentions Roth and von Harnack at around 4,000 words) and more expansive (over 10,000 words in Nicolotti, Klinghardt, Hahn, and Zahn). I'm not sure that word counts is a standard, but the point...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 499
Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
The following is emphasised differently by me, ie. I've removed Charles' and added my own MrMacSon -- A good suggestion. Some time ago, I speculated on something like this awhile back: Tacitus, Histories, Book 3: "All other nations were equally restless. A sudden outbreak had been excited in Po...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 499
Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
Yeah, that is incredible.Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:04 am I also find it incredible that Acts pretends Paul was a former Pharisee. Like hearing Hugh Hefner was celibate. Paul thought the destruction of the temple was clearing the way for the true religion.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 499
Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
Paul wrote for the gentiles. Significant key apsects of what Paul wrote was to diss 'Judaism': at a time when 'Judaism' was a lot more diverse than is commonly recognised. I kind of/mostly agree with this: No. That's what the orthodox say. Doesn't make any sense. The Marcionites said he wrote for t...