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But again. The Greek Orthodox Church on some level accepted the text and the book had always been in the monastery (or at least been there before Morton Smith's discovery) when they created that certificate of authenticity. They could be wrong. They could have mistakenly believed the book was there ...

SA, for clarity, Smith's Greek text is a "transcription" and an error there would be transcribed incorrectly.

Which is a somewhat more relevant point than just saying mistranslated.

Yes.

Let's be honest Stephen. You have exhibited a consistent binary thought pattern which I don't think the evidence supports. For you it's Morton Smith or you don't want to hear it. That's a bad sign in a debate. There are a lot of possibilities here once you know that the monastery and the Patriarchat...

What if it turned out that Seraphim's handwriting resembled the Mar Saba author. Would that be enough to prove that Morton Smith was behind the forgery?

Smith mentioned an earlier fire for his scenario. And? Who fucking cares what Smith postulated. Even by saying such a thing like this you are showing you can't get out of what Smith wrote or imagined versus what could have happened. I don't think Smith is in control of reality. He mistranslated the...

Let's imagine this. My Greek friend Harry Tzalas told me he can't read the letter of authentication because it is a style of writing that isn't taught any more in Greece. I will cite the email. Let's give authenticity a chance. Let's suppose that there was a fragment of Clement lying around in the m...

Smith and Landau add something to the story: Flusser remembers that they did encounter one bump in the road. When the team of scholars attempted to leave with the book, “Abbot Seraphim,” an old friend of Smith who presided over Mar Saba, “raised hell,” demanding that “they would have to request it,...

Always fair Andrew. Love you to death. To answer Peter's question: Smith and Landau add something to the story: Flusser remembers that they did encounter one bump in the road. When the team of scholars attempted to leave with the book, “Abbot Seraphim,” an old friend of Smith who presided over Mar S...

A certificate of organic certification https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification assumes certain things about the about the way produce was raised, doesn't it? They may not be listed on the certificate but they are assumed. A certificate of authenticity with respect to a manuscript fou...

So you won't answer the question of whether it is possible for the Patriarchate to have issued a certificate of authenticity without at least considering whether the book and the manuscript had been in the monastery before 1958.