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- Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Mark had to be sent ''secretly''
- Replies: 6
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Re: Why Mark had to be sent ''secretly''
No the "secret gospel" is a concept referenced in Prescript of Irenaeus/Tertullian and Clement of Alexandria. He mentions heretics who for the purpose of scoffing at some ignorance in the Apostles, bring forward the point that Peter and his companions were blamed by Paul. "Something t...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
I think a better case can be made that this http://gnosis.org/naghamm/testruth.html is closer to the Antitheses
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
Anyway I never told my son there wasn't a Santa Claus. I won't stop you using Tertullian's reference to the existence of the Antitheses (while rejecting T's explicit reference to various Marcionite sounding antitheses) only to identify the contents of the work in Adamantius who never mentions a work...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
But Adamantius doesn't even know the existence of this book. At least Tertullian refers to it by name.
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
But how do you explain why Marcion 'agreed' with Matthew. His arguments (5) (8) and (12) are right out of Matthew. Marcion's antitheses are Matthew's antitheses. And why aren't they in Luke?And at least one after an early version of Matthew was released.
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
On the 'striking parallels' between Marcion and the rabbinic exegesis of the Exodus narrative - https://books.google.com/books?id=wbO7bralsRQC&pg=PA202&lpg=PA202&dq=gold+rabbinic+marcion&source=bl&ots=AQuiefzBs1&sig=WmraGHJiCBCGgRX4JC-c7BKqGkQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUK...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
But if you removed (11) then you are down to 11 'citations' where 3 of them are more or less directly from the Matthean antitheses. So 8 vs 3? I think when we trim them down it gets even worse than that. Why should we believe that De Recta in Deum Fide is referencing a text as you describe when it d...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
I think you should try again with the antitheses referenced in Book 2. A stronger case can be made from that. This is garbage. Not your argument but the Dialogues of Adamantius - they are a bad source.
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
12) in the Law it says, "Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce," But the good Lord says, "every one who divorces his wife, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery." This (12) and (5) and (8) argue for the antit...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Antithesis (Clean thread)
- Replies: 46
- Views: 18188
Re: Antithesis (Clean thread)
11) The God of Creation was known to Adam and his contemporaries – this clear from their Scriptures But the Father of Christ is unknown, for our Lord says, “No one knows the Father, except the Son, neither does anyone know the son, except the Father.“ But this is most perplexing. One would have expe...