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by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions.
Replies: 132
Views: 61714

Re: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions

The problem is that the death of Vashti is widespread and relatively early in Midrash and Targum. It is difficult to see this motif as based on the story of John the Baptist even if this is a prima-facie plausible idea. On the other hand Vashti's head on a platter is genuinely late in the Midrashic...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions.
Replies: 132
Views: 61714

Re: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions

Parallels with Jewish Midrash. 4. The executioner/bodyguard. The word for executioner/bodyguard in Mark 6.27 is σπεκουλάτωρ, a Latin loan word: speculator . Aus observes that this Greek word is found nowhere else in the New Testament, the LXX, Philo, or Josephus. It is quite rare. Interestingly, ho...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions.
Replies: 132
Views: 61714

Re: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions

Midrashic interpretation did that sort of thing all the time. If your argument is that the interpreters are more likely to have done it only with the text of Mark as an impetus, well, I completely disagree. Adding such details to the text, even when they seem to contradict the original intention, w...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions.
Replies: 132
Views: 61714

Re: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions

Does not the head on a platter seem more at home in the Esther story than it is in Mark? The king asks Vashti to come into the banqueting room, she declines, and so he brings her severed head into the banqueting room anyway. The connection between Vashti and the banquet itself is palpable (since sh...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions.
Replies: 132
Views: 61714

Re: Parallels between Mark 6.14-29 and the Esther traditions

I am going to suggest that some very late Jewish midrashic materials actually preserve traditions that Mark (or his sources) knew and used in the story of Herod beheading John the Baptist. Thanks Ben. Very interesting. Finally, I will suggest that the internal evidence points to a direction of depe...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: to Iskander: Romans 9:4-5
Replies: 2
Views: 4653

to Iskander: Romans 9:4-5

Would you kindly consider translating Romans 9:4-5 in a new thread.? Romans 9:4 οἵτινές εἰσιν Ἰσραηλεῖται, ὧν ἡ υἱοθεσία καὶ ἡ δόξα καὶ αἱ διαθῆκαι καὶ ἡ νομοθεσία καὶ ἡ λατρεία καὶ αἱ ἐπαγγελίαι, who are Israelites, whose (is) the sonship and the glory and the covenants and the lawgiving and the s...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again
Replies: 200
Views: 148140

Re: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again

I have some trust that this kind of reasoning is typical for Paul and I will try to check this. It is not exactly the same, but with very similar aspects context 1 Cor 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, he...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again
Replies: 200
Views: 148140

Re: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again

To quote 15.11b against me is not fair, though, since it has belonged in my reconstruction from the beginning, as have parts of verses 3 and 4. And I do not think Against Marcion 4.4.5 is necessarily relevant, since it does not derive from the analytical portion of Tertullian's treatment, in which ...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again
Replies: 200
Views: 148140

Re: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again

We have preaching (tying back to verses 1 and 11b), and we have a raising from the dead (tying back to verses 3-4), but we find nothing corresponding to an argument from the appearances , to wit, "Now if all of these worthy men are witnesses of the resurrection of our Lord, how do some among y...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again
Replies: 200
Views: 148140

Re: 1 Cor 15:3-11 once again

1) There is no textual indication for an interpolation. Disagree, though the textual indications are mostly indirect. A cogent argument can be made for the/a Marcionite version lacking most of this pericope. That is probably not what you would be calling "textual" indications, but at some...