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- Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
Ken, I'm afraid I will have to decline to continue this discussion. Not sure I agree with the direction the board seems to be going (more angry replies and all that goes with that). I have noticed that you have recently soured in your opinion of me, and maybe pressed one of your buttons. I guess I a...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Flaw with Marcion priority theory?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1167
Re: Flaw with Marcion priority theory?
Here is another rub to the question of priority: from what point of the sediment are we starting from for our excavation? ... For convenience sake, here is my headcanon: *first layer, 115ad-130ad, Marcionism 0.1: belief in a mystical translation into the body of the chrestus: only Pauline letters u...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Torah ordained through angels
- Replies: 8
- Views: 353
Re: The Torah ordained through angels
ἀγγέλων here are lower level messengers or envoys τὸ σπέρμα ᾧ ἐπήγγελται διαταγεὶς δι’ ἀγγέλων ἐν* χειρὶ μεσίτου the seed to whom promise has been prescribed through 'angels' by* a mediator's/agent's hand * or, perhaps, 'during the time of' Using a concordant style interlinear I have found helpful*...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
David, here is one reason I am wary of some assumptions made here: "... SG, you and I have different political POVs re state of Israel...." by DCHindley Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:12 am in the thread "Should we rename...." I appreciate many of your posts as helpful, but, as far as I can...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:07 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
Moving on to your point, I did not address what might have motivated G & G to reject Q so vehemently. They have proposed a means, a very complicated means with several steps, that could explain the development of the synoptic gospels as we have them without Q, when the Q hypothesis is a much mo...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
DCHindley wrote, above, Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:49 pm, in part: "I have suggested in the past that what seems to have set off the likes of Michael Goulder & Mark Goodacre to oppose the very concept or need for Q, was that it implied that Church tradition was <shudder> wrong. Even though these t...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
I have suggested in the past that what set off the likes of Michael Goulder & Mark Goodacre, to oppose the very concept, was that it implied that Church tradition was <shudder> wrong. Even though they profess to be agnostics themselves, they are strongly attached to the Christian social gospel ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
I have suggested in the past that what set off the likes of Michael Goulder & Mark Goodacre, to oppose the very concept, was that it implied that Church tradition was <shudder> wrong. Even though they profess to be agnostics themselves, they are strongly attached to the Christian social gospel ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 126
- Views: 17938
Re: Gospel priority
I don't yet know the answer, but I am most often looking at the gospel relationships as follows: Mk -> *Ev Mk and/or *Ev -> Jn *Ev and maybe Mk -> Mt Then finally Luke is aware of all the preceding gospels: Mk -> Lk *Ev -> Lk Mt -> Lk Jn -> Lk No Q? "No Q for you!" says the "Q Nazi&q...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Torah ordained through angels
- Replies: 8
- Views: 353
Re: The Torah ordained through angels
In Galatians 3:19 Paul says the Law was given through angels and trusted through a mediator. The mediator I guess is Moses. Who are the angels? Do you think these could be the archons of the lower celestial realms? The rulers of this material world? I'm thinking this is a smoking gun? Is there anot...