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Could you cite the pages in Klinghardt that Vinzent is talking about here? I imagine Vinzent cites them. Vinzent quotes directly Klinghardt, but the references (p. 374-375) are to the German version from 2015: The terminus ante quem is derived from the patristic attestation of the Gospels in their ...

Now that I remember, possibly I have been partially "influenced" by this passage: Thus, even though Klinghardt makes a good argument that the compilation of texts known as the New Testament was already known to Justin, and perhaps even to Marcion, it is only from Irenaeus onward that the ...

According to Tertullian, a letter from Marcion shows that Marcion initially followed the proto-orthodox position, before creating his own version. That means Marcion's Gospel wasn't the first: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/tertullian121.html Marcion has quenched the light of his faith,...

I have a question about the three Passion Predictions in the Synoptics and how the work on Klinghardt’s theory that *Ev was prior to Mark. Three Passion Predictions.png On the three principal Markan priority theories (2DH, Farrer, MPH), Mark is first and has the three Passion Predictions grouped fai...

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:56 am I think I found what you're looking for (in A Companion to Second-Century Christian 'Heretics', p. 6).

Wonderful! Thanks, Peter.

Does anyone have access to this: Hegemonius, Acta Archelai (Manichean Studies 4; Brepols, 2001) English translation by Mark Vermes, based on Charles Henry Beeson’s critical edition. I have Beeson, Hegemonius, Acta Archelai (GCS, 1906), but the nearest library I know of that has Vermes' English trans...

There are various different versions of this story online (you can google it). In some versions the questioner is a Jewish student, and in others a Christian, or even a Bishop. In some versions the men who come down the chimney are burglars rather than chimney sweeps. I'm attempting to tell it the ...

By observing that the reading 'and so both are preserved' is in Matthew (9.17), not Luke. Does it change something? Replace 'Matthew' with 'Luke' in my previous post and my act of accusation against the apologists who deny that Luke and Matthew comes after Marcion stands all. I remember you that ev...

I have always respected this wise advice by Raphael Lataster: never argue with fool Christian apologists on the mythicism but ignore them. As to Marcionite priority, I should follow an analogous advice: never argue with apologists who don't accept that the Evangelion precedes at least Matthew and L...

To put it crudely, if Klinghardt has shown that 'abolishing the law and the prophets' is unlikely to be a Marcionite addition to Luke, he has not shown that it's unlikely to be an orthodox addition to Luke. … The sequence could still be: Luke=>Western Luke=>Evangelion. (I'm not claiming to have pro...