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- Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
- Replies: 256
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Re: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
In certain locations there were persecuted but there are signs that the Roman Church was not persecuted in the third century.
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
- Replies: 256
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Re: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
Instead of wasting your time on Bernard why not simply answer the question I have been raising time and again in this thread - doesn't your theory about dating for the gospel assume that it was openly published? A secretly transmitted book could have been written at any time.
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
- Replies: 256
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Re: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
And Celsus (Contr. Cels. Book 1) confirms that Christians were a secret association. So it becomes extremely unlikely IMHO that the gospel was ever 'openly published' before Irenaeus.
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
- Replies: 108
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Re: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
So in Syriac the hymn Sogdinan Mar, L-Alahootha, wal-Nashutha "We Bow o Lord, to your Divinity, and to your Humanity."
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
- Replies: 108
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Re: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
The same word alahota appears throughout the writings of Marqe especially where two powers are referenced: Divinity appeared and established the covenant; glory appeared and magnified what was good. The angels came to magnify what was glorious and they were all assembled for Adam. Divinity formed hi...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:53 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
- Replies: 108
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Re: Did the Church Fathers Really Take ΙΣ = Jesus?
In Syriac Christianity there is a deep debate regarding the 'humanity' (= ˀnšw, ˀnšwtˀ [ˀĕ]nāšū, [ˀĕ]nāšūṯā, ) and the divinity (= alahutha). But isn't it obvious if - as I suggest - that at one time ish rather than enosh was the original terminology? Notice that even 'enosh' in Aramaic adds a yod t...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
- Replies: 256
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Re: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
The Teaching of Addai has many of the basic features of Marcionism: Assemble me tomorrow all the city, and I will sow in it the word of life by the preaching which I will address to you— about the coming of Christ, in what manner it was; and about Him that sent Him, why and how He sent Him; and abou...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:40 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Hebrew papyrus from the 8th c. BCE?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 9084
Re: Hebrew papyrus from the 8th c. BCE?
And for that matter - why do politically inclined people who pretend to you 'scientific evidence' to support theological/political ends continue to pretend that Jerusalem is a 'holy city'? It isn't mentioned in the Pentateuch and the original sacred place was Gerizim (or perhaps the meadow where Jac...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:12 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
- Replies: 256
- Views: 98498
Re: The Gospels Were Not Published Until c.150
I actually think Ben's summary is fair and reasonable. One more thing though. I brought up the fact that IF one accepts the idea that the gospel was originally about Jewish gods or powers (Jesus/Ishu and Chrestos/something or other in Hebrew) and how 'the two were made one ... on the Cross' (Eph 2:1...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:59 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Hebrew papyrus from the 8th c. BCE?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 9084
Re: Hebrew papyrus from the 8th c. BCE?
The question isn't so much why it was politicized but whether or not the government has embraced a forged text for political purposes.