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by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:14 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: Re: Evolution from/after the Septuagint

I'm not advocating some 'monstrous Franken-Judaism'. I'm working on a preliminary hypothesis that a myriad of variants evolved from a number of factors over a number of generations, with the evolution of variants and development of apocrypha accelerating in the 1st C.
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:59 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: Re: Evolution from/after the Septuagint

I probably should've referred to plural - the [dispersed] text s , translated and transliterated into various versions, in different dispersed communities; over several/many generations - " that I propose/postulate is 1. versions of the Septuagint in the first instance, then 2. the apocrypha that se...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:13 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: Re: Evolution from/after the Septuagint

Nevertheless even with all this variation anyone with any knowledge of the Pentateuch knows that you can't get that much variation out of this text. When I was in Israel the last time, I had two conflicting obligations on the same sabbath evening. So you know what I did? I actually paid a cab driver...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: an example of the kind of thing to avoid
Replies: 15
Views: 16635

Re: an example of the kind of thing to avoid

... Either Jesus existed, and we have no evidence for that; else he did not exist, and we do possess evidence that he did not ... There were lots of Jesuses at the time - Josephus lists ~19 (I think). A key issue might be whether any were the basis for aspects of the biblical character; Jesus of Na...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:17 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: Re: Evolution from/after the Septuagint

I think my thesis is clear - there was upheaval from the times of the Hellenism of Judaism (including the Maccabee Revolt) through to the end of the Roman-Jewish Wars (by which most Jews had been exiled or enslave or both): there would have been disruptions to may communities and religious orders, a...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:43 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: 'evolution' during/after the 2nd Century BCE

Yeah but that's the misunderstanding of Jewish law that white people always want to get around. huh? The same thing is found in Islam. You can't just make shit up. It's not a creative writing exercise. huh? There are precedents that are established and people have to obey otherwise they will quite ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:22 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Re: Evolution from/after the Septuagint

OK, but the point is that there was the start of significant cultural change and, to a degree, upheaval. Particularly changes in literature: I think the apocrypha and pseudepigraphic apocalyptic literature had a lot more influence on the development of Christianity than has been generally acknowledg...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:27 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?
Replies: 31
Views: 36049

Normative Judaism, or evolution from/after the Septuagint?

[edited font colour and size to change emphasis] I have been intrigued by the influence of Hellenism on the Jewish culture 3rd to 1st C BCE starting increased diversity in Judaism - Hellenic Jews removed their marks of circumcision and repudiated the holy covenant First book of Maccabees; the only v...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gerd Lüdemann's works
Replies: 6
Views: 7991

Re: Gerd Lüdemann's works

MrMacSon, let's not forget to mention what Lüdemann is perhaps the most famous for: He got in trouble with his university for denying the resurrection of Jesus/for not being a Christian. He wasn't sacked but he basically was pushed to the side. One of the reasons why one should hesitate before acce...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gerd Lüdemann's works
Replies: 6
Views: 7991

Re: Gerd Lüdemann's works

I haven't read it, but would be interested in perusing it after reading those reviews, and about Ludemann's work.