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by MrMacSon
Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 123543

Re: Loaves and Fishes

all these references to "scientific" - surely that is a category error: not much around theology is 'scientific' Mr MacSon, no, it is not a category error to describe the scientific facts which give rise to theological imagination. I agree. But I still contend that science & theology are different ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 62508

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

1 Corinthians 2:8 'None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.' Did Paul think Jesus was the Lord of glory when he was crucified? Or only after he had been crucified? If the Pauline texts were redacted, even just once, how would we...
by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 123543

Re: Loaves and Fishes

all these references to "scientific" - surely that is a category error: not much around theology is 'scientific'
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:37 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The origin of the synagogue
Replies: 16
Views: 15109

Re: The origin of the synagogue

Jews were exiled again in the 1st and early 2nd C; I often wondered if that diversified their beliefs & practices and caused some exiled-communities to focus on traditions practiced before they were exiled in those latter times.
by MrMacSon
Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger
Replies: 66
Views: 32464

Re: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger

Wouldn't literary criticism be more a tool for glimpsing at who wrote the texts?
by MrMacSon
Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger
Replies: 66
Views: 32464

Re: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger

Does the question of the historicity of the gospel come down to a question of whether the text originally intended to portray an earthly or heavenly stranger? If we acknowledge Joseph was a very late addition then a mother specifically named 'Mary' was yet another layer of the same onion. While Luk...
by MrMacSon
Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?
Replies: 108
Views: 36368

Re: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?

... First, I deny that we have any idea what "early Christians" did or did not believe. There is no record of what second century CE folks thought about anything, let alone the nascent new religion, Christianity--the very word did not exist until the fifth century, correct me if I err. It seems to ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 123543

Re: Loaves and Fishes

it fails to account for the many odd and unnatural details of the event, why these details are changed for its second telling, and what was its point in relation to the similar miracle by Elisha. A reason that can account for all of these has to win over one that is as generalized as saying it's a ...
by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?
Replies: 108
Views: 36368

Re: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?

I think the proposal for a 2nd coming is tied to the proposal there was or would be a resurrection.
by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 123543

Re: Loaves and Fishes

Commentary on Gospel Texts on Loaves and Fishes Collating the text on the loaves and fishes from all four gospels there are about 2000 words, nearly 100 verses. The feeding of the multitude is the most prominent miracle in the Bible, appearing six times compared to three for the resurrection, but i...