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by Jax
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

Hm. I'm not buying Herron's argument that what was good for Josephus and the Mishnah regarding the use of the present tense is not good for 1 Clement, at least regarding "One simply cannot say that of 1 Clement: we do not know that 1 Clement knows the Temple is in ruins!" Alright, we don't "know" t...
by Jax
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 1 Timothy 6:13 was moved to mention Pilate
Replies: 7
Views: 6472

Re: Why 1 Timothy 6:13 was moved to mention Pilate

Hey Peter, OT but if you have a moment could you respond to this post? http://earlywritings.com/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=3&p=101775 What's the question? I feel as though the thread has already excavated my past thoughts better than I remember them myself. :D Just this snip from an article [P....
by Jax
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:38 pm
While I am not opposed to the idea of a compound letter by any means, I think that "amen" can be used to close out a miniature doxology.
Fair enough. It does seem to go on forever though.
by Jax
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:07 pm
Jax wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:01 pm
Nice. :cheers:
Thanks. That would tie a few loose ends together, I think.
As far as interpolations go; I note several Amens in the letter. Compiled letter perhaps? Even without the interpolated letter.
by Jax
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

[That does not jive for me at all. It would be like me praising the police force, in the present tense, for dutifully enforcing the Eighteenth Amendment (Prohibition). It reads to me more like praising the police for doing their eternal duties rather than specifically for enforcing only the Eightee...
by Jax
Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

But if that doesn't work for you, I recall that there is evidence that sacrifices continued to be made in Jerusalem after 70 CE. The people continued to bring sacrifices that were offered on a Temple Mount altar that had survived the destructive fire by the Romans. The Mishnah, a central code of Je...
by Jax
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

For me it would be a matter of dating 1 Clement, and since I'm happy with c. 95 CE, then the question for me would be how many written gospels were there c. 95 CE. And the way I look at it is that the earliest references to written gospels we have (Papias, who I date c. 110 CE) mentions only two, M...
by Jax
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 1 Timothy 6:13 was moved to mention Pilate
Replies: 7
Views: 6472

Re: Why 1 Timothy 6:13 was moved to mention Pilate

One wonders why Paul didn't mention Pilate to a similar goal, at least to make it clear that the deity has shown himself in the recent times. Certainly one does! IMO the one passage that has bothered me the most, though, is this one (1 Cor 11): "23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on...
by Jax
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

For me it would be a matter of dating 1 Clement, and since I'm happy with c. 95 CE, then the question for me would be how many written gospels were there c. 95 CE. And the way I look at it is that the earliest references to written gospels we have (Papias, who I date c. 110 CE) mentions only two, M...
by Jax
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?
Replies: 206
Views: 118697

Re: 1 Clement & the Gospel of Matthew?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:30 am
More study is clearly required. :cheers:
Totally! :D