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by Michael BG
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

Hopefully we can agree that the term Son of Man is used in a similar way in the Similitudes of Enoch and 4 Ezra and therefore we need to discuss if these are Christian or Jewish. or the possibility or probability they are intermediate? I am not sure what you mean by "intermediate". 1 My original po...
by Michael BG
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

I don't think any of the subsequent posts answer my original post though. I don't doubt that Christian developed from Judaism in some way. My question is however that 'Jewish Christianity' - i.e. the tradition developed around 'James the brother of Jesus' has very little going for it. Again, I don'...
by Michael BG
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

Hopefully we can agree that the term Son of Man is used in a similar way in the Similitudes of Enoch and 4 Ezra and therefore we need to discuss if these are Christian or Jewish. or the possibility or probability they are intermediate? I am not sure what you mean by "intermediate". My original post...
by Michael BG
Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

I thought it was used in Judaism with the definitive article ' the in Enoch and 4 Ezra. All I know about that is is While Daniel 7:13 "like a son of man" probably did not stand for the Messiah, where the phrase appears in extant versions of later apocryphal and deuterocanonical works such as the Si...
by Michael BG
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

The Son of Man title for a heavenly figure in the gospels appears to be from Judaism, and is missing from Paul’s letters. . It was ' a son of man' in Judaism. It became the definitive article ' the Son of Man' in Christianity. I thought it was used in Judaism with the definitive article ' the in En...
by Michael BG
Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 36208

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

What if instead he rudimentarily was known (while alive) to speak of a coming son of man, but he never even remotely envisioned himself to be this figure? And if it was only at some later date that he was back-projected into such a high Christology as its Christ... The development of a high Christo...
by Michael BG
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus
Replies: 29
Views: 17956

Re: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus

The full title of the Tabor's book is; " The Jesus Dynasty. The Hidden History of Jesus, His Royal Family, and the Birth of Christianity ." People tend to forget that the nation of Israel was once a kingdom with a royal family. The throne of David was to be restored to his royal (blood-line) descen...
by Michael BG
Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus
Replies: 29
Views: 17956

Re: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus

John T wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:58 am
I would recommend you read a book …
After that I would recommend you read a book by James D. Tabor titled; "The Jesus Dynasty".
Why are you recommending James Tabor’s book? What did I miss?
by Michael BG
Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus
Replies: 29
Views: 17956

Re: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus

Actually, Paul is trying to make it clear which James he is referring to by stating he is talking about the sibling brother of Jesus, a.k.a. James the Just who is in charge of the church in Jerusalem. James is more than an apostle, he is the physical brother of Jesus and thus a direct heir. In othe...
by Michael BG
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus
Replies: 29
Views: 17956

Re: Justin: apostles = brothers of Jesus

I think that a discussion of “brother of the Lord” (Gal 1:19) and “bothers of the Lord” (1 Cor 9:5) as interpolations is an interesting one, but I am not sure the evidence for them being interpolations is strong enough no matter how appealing the theories are. Some people assume that the Catholics w...