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by Michael BG
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 54107

Re: No Christology in the Q community

To Michael BG, "if we assume" "it is possible" "I suppose it is possible". Sounds like unfounded assumptions. According to most Q scholars there are three layers in the Q material. How long would it take for each layer to develop and if we are looking at about 60 CE then why is there no use of the ...
by Michael BG
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 54107

No Christology in the Q community

Recently I read in H E Todt’s the Son of Man in the Synoptic Tradition , “The title of Messiah does not occur in the Q material” (p 302). What does this mean for the development of beliefs about Jesus? If we assume that Jesus talked of a heavenly Son of Man who was coming soon, then it is possible I...
by Michael BG
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 30374

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Stuart, I found some of your ‘assessment’ interesting, especially the idea that it is unlikely that Paul would write “gospel of God”. However it also is used at Roms 15:16, 2 Cor. 11:7, I Thess 1:5, 2:2, 2:8 and 2:9. I still think ‘adoptionism’ is early and this is stage one, Jesus appointed Son of ...
by Michael BG
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 30374

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Apparently, that would be correct if the the case for ὁρισθέντος would be accusative, but it is in genitive case. My info comes from https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3724&t=KJV .... In the link it doesn’t state it is in genitive case, but even if it was I don’t unde...
by Michael BG
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 30374

Re: Romans 1:1-5

“Marked out” would imply that God decided before Jesus was crucified or maybe before he was born that he would resurrect Jesus when he died. The King James Version, the American Standard Version and the English Standard Version have “declared”, which does not imply this. ὁρισθέντος can be also tran...
by Michael BG
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 30374

Re: Romans 1:1-5

τοῦ ὁρισθέντος υἱοῦ θεοῦ ἐν δυνάμει κατὰ πνεῦμα ἁγιωσύνης ἐξ ἀναστάσεως νεκρῶν, Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν, “the appointed Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord” I don't think "appointed" is the right translation. "Marked...
by Michael BG
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 30374

Re: Romans 1:1-5

ok, aside from a few words that have incidentally crept in, do people think Rom 1:1-5 is more declarative of a resurrected spirit than a resurrected man? When I was a Christian, Roms. 1:4 was one of my favourite Pauline verses. τοῦ ὁρισθέντος υἱοῦ θεοῦ ἐν δυνάμει κατὰ πνεῦμα ἁγιωσύνης ἐξ ἀναστάσεως...
by Michael BG
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?
Replies: 11
Views: 8171

Re: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?

I do think that chapters 1-4 of 1 Corinthians represent a separate letter which has been made to appear a part of the larger whole. I don't think it was written by Paul. Much of it speaks of Paul in the third person I can only see ones which are parallels. Are there any non-parallels? That's a pret...
by Michael BG
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?
Replies: 11
Views: 8171

Re: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?

Bernard, I am not convinced that 1 Corinthians is made up of three letters. I accept that “I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills” in 1 Cor. 4:19 is a shorter time period than “I will visit you after passing through Macedo'nia, for I intend to pass through Macedo'nia, … But I will stay in Ephesu...
by Michael BG
Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?
Replies: 11
Views: 8171

Re: Did Paul write any of 1 Corinthians 5?

Does the interpolation extend further, down to 6:8? And if so should 5:1a be seen as genuine? 6:1-8 [1] When one of you has a grievance against a brother, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? [2] Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world i...