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by Michael BG
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, Do you think that Jesus was born in 6 CE and Luke 2:1-2 is historical? If so why? The answer, NO for 6 CE, & YES for Lk 2:2. For LK 2:1, very likely NO (but I don't use that). Everything is explained here: http://historical-jesus.info/appa.html I went to your web page. I think there ...
by Michael BG
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, To state that Luke might not have created Paul being in Corinth at the time of Gallio is a long way from stating that it is a certainty on which your whole time-frame for Paul should be based. We know Luke likes to create false history so the likelihood is that this is false too. Why...
by Michael BG
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, About Theudas and Judas: no context, "Luke" was wrong. I deducted from that ( http://historical-jesus.info/59.html ), and other multiple things ( http://historical-jesus.info/appb.html ), that "Luke" did not have Josephus' Antiquities. However that does not mean the Gallio's passage ...
by Michael BG
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

Paul never called any member of the church of Jerusalem to be "brothers" or "in Christ". And that's only one argument among many against those being Christians. I found 35 for Paul's conversion, 52 for the council of Jerusalem, and Paul's dispute with Peter in Antioch, and the start of the 3rd jour...
by Michael BG
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

Michael BG wrote: However in this thread I am not interested in wheres and the only whens I am interested in are Q and Paul’s letters. (We should try to date Paul’s letter without using Acts. I took a lot of trouble to do a lot of investigation about dating Paul's letters, taking out the interpolat...
by Michael BG
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

As a possible parallel, assuming the same author of Luke and Acts, there is more explicit Christology in Acts and in the first 2 chapters of Luke than in the main section of Luke. Early Christian writers IMO could distinguish between their Christology and their account of the earthly ministry of Je...
by Michael BG
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

Bernard, I thought you would disagree with me regarding Lk 12:8-9. I see at least two issues with what you wrote, but I am not going to discuss them in this thread (I think one of them we have discussed in another thread). This thread is about the lack of the title Christ in Q and what reasons there...
by Michael BG
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

Bernard, years ago you had a different website with more colourful background pages. I think I read everything you had up at that time, including your discussion of Q using Mark. You are always so positive with your conclusions! For me each ‘conclusion’ is not definite but what I think is most likel...
by Michael BG
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

DCHindley, I am very surprised about how much you put into Q2 for Kloppenborg. I will look again at my copy of Excavating Q: The History and Setting of the Sayings Gospel and the notes I have made and come back with a fuller response tomorrow. Well, I'm sure I pieced it together from sources, … For...
by Michael BG
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 65375

Re: No Christology in the Q community

IF for example the Q community believed that Jesus was only revealed as Messiah at his resurrection, then their account of the pre-resurrection sayings of Jesus probably would not involve Jesus claiming to be the Messiah. As a possible parallel, assuming the same author of Luke and Acts, there is m...