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by Secret Alias
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

And as a side note I know that you don't see yourself as an apologist for Irenaeus. You see it as 'necessary' to use the surviving canon because it is all we have. But that's a lot like arguments that the boycott of South Africa or BDS wasn't/isn't worth pursuing because innocent people would get hu...
by Secret Alias
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

To my eye, absolutely the best principle that the "new wave" of scholars of Marcion (especially BeDuhn and Roth) has laid down is that X cannot be assumed to have been missing from the Marcionite canon just because X seems contrary to Marcionite belief. I agree that it is difficult to know that som...
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why "Son of Man" ? Because Cain was the true Son of Adam
Replies: 6
Views: 885

Re: Why "Son of Man" ? Because Cain was the true Son of Adam

If you knew halakhah you would know that Cain was understood to have been born from divine seed. God impregnated Eve with his seed.
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

I agree, but the description of Paul as being Torah observant in Acts is in keeping with what he says [in our canon which the Marcionites say was interpolated by "Judaizers"] in 1 Cor. 9:20: And? Are you trying to tell me that the Marcionites were so irrational that they had an explicit confirmatio...
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

The best argument I can come up with against the chronological ordering of the epistles is that it seems unlikely that 1 and 2 of anything were back to back correspondences. In other words, 1 and 2 Corinthians can't have immediately followed one from the other.
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

No I meant citing consensus.
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

I agree. It floored me when he suggested it. But when I saw how many scholars of Marcion go along with his address to the seven churches hypothesis I thought there must be something to it. Bad argument I know but where there's smoke there's fire I guess. The one thing I can see is that Galatians is ...
by Secret Alias
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 2251

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

At the very least we have to acknowledge that the Marcionite rejection of Acts went hand in hand with their rejection of the description of Paul in that book.
by Secret Alias
Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Meaning of Jesus's Crucifixion
Replies: 24
Views: 1826

Re: The Meaning of Jesus's Crucifixion

Let me look at your information again: Order of epistles according to Tertullian: Galatians. 1 Corinthians. 2 Corinthians. Romans. 1 Thessalonians. 2 Thessalonians. Laodiceans/Ephesians. Colossians. Philippians. Philemon. Order of cities or provinces visited in Acts: Galatia (Acts 16.6). Troas (Acts...
by Secret Alias
Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Martyrdom of James, Syriac Luke 4:9, Daniel 9:27
Replies: 1
Views: 475

Re: The Martyrdom of James, Syriac Luke 4:9, Daniel 9:27

If Hegesippus represents one attempt to explain the enigmatic כנפ in Daniel 9:27, I wonder whether Jesus's crucifixion or crucifixion in general is another explanation. כנפ essentially means to 'spread out.' In the Gospel of Philip we read "The eucharist is Jesus. For he is called in Syriac "Pharisa...