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by Secret Alias
Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?
Replies: 13
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Re: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?

κατά γε μὴν τὸν παρόντα λόγον τὴν παλινῳδίαν τῶν περὶ ἡμᾶς εἰργασμένων τοῖς εἰρημένοις ἐπισυνάψω τά τε ἐξ ἀρχῆς τοῦ διωγμοῦ συμβεβηκότα, χρησιμώτατα τυγχάνοντα τοῖς ἐντευξομένοις But (μὴν) in the present book I will add to what I have given the revocation issued by our persecutors, and those events ...
by Secret Alias
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?
Replies: 13
Views: 352

Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?

1. For Valentinus came to Rome under Hyginus, flourished under Pius, and remained until Anicetus. Cerdon also, Marcion's predecessor, entered the Church in the time of Hyginus, the ninth bishop, and made confession, and continued in this way, now teaching in secret, now making confession again, and...
by Secret Alias
Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Replies: 35
Views: 634

Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?

I was working from the French text Giuseppe provided. Giuseppe was saying something else still from what you provided from Lidzbarski.
by Secret Alias
Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 817

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

I understand that the second hymn applies to the interpretation of the odes but the gospel passages discussed in succession appear in the order of the gospel from memory (the cast fire, strong man, divide household is as it appears in Luke even though it is cited successively again from memory)
by Secret Alias
Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 817

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

It is also interesting that the Psalms are identified as by David (not entirely surprising) but the odes or hymns are attributed in one place to Solomon the son of David perhaps as a way of making them appear more orthodox.
by Secret Alias
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 817

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

Odes 25 and 22 are dealt with successively in the Pistis Sophia with our 22 referenced as "the second " hymn. This coupled with 1 cited as 19 argues for a different ordering.
by Secret Alias
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 817

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

When the Odes are cited in the Pistis Sophia they come from a collection with a different ordering. This follows the 'jumbled' order of many orthodox text (i.e. Irenaeus who says that the heretics move around the stones of a mosaic which is another way of saying potentially that the orthodox jumbled...