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by Secret Alias
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

And also remember defining the Marcionite text as 'X' - in this case proto-Luke, a version of Luke, whatever - based on the testimony of pathological liars helps scholars BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIMIT DISCUSSION down to knowable commodities. In other words, too bad so sad that Irenaeus said the gospel ...
by Secret Alias
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

But I strongly suspect the Marcionite tradition WAS the original Roman tradition.
by Secret Alias
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

But your not getting it. The Marcionites had only one apostle. No 'apostle Peter,' no 'apostle anyone else.' The guy we call Paul was the only apostle. The model is clearly Moses https://books.google.com/books?id=F5Y3AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA227&dq=samaritan+moses+apostle+of+god&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&s...
by Secret Alias
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

It gets so frustrating. I saw a professor of this nonsense on Facebook have a cartoon put up on Facebook today basically ridiculing the 'confidence' of non-professionals versus the 'expertise' of a trained professional. Fine. The academics are indeed superior to most everyone. No doubt about it. But...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazarene Christianity
Replies: 22
Views: 706

Re: Nazarene Christianity

Do you realize that the concept of 'oral Torah' is antithetical to the very concept of divine Torah? This is just silly. Oral teaching means 'human teaching.' Christianity was founded on divine torah. This whole endeavor of yours is a typical Jewish misunderstanding of Christianity. Christianity was...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

Don't give me that shit. That's not Marcion's gospel. That's Irenaeus and Tertullian arguing against Marcion by using their copy of their Luke. These Church Fathers were so evil, dishonest and deceptive. Read 4.2 - 6. They're arguing Marcion stole Luke and corrupted it so they will argue from the pa...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 29
Views: 574

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

No what I meant is that Matthew and Luke's plagiarism of Mark was deliberate with the deliberate attempt to find variation in terminology so as to disguise the act of copying a text sitting before the author. The variation is made to appear natural, minor, incidental. But it was quite deliberate, ca...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazarene Christianity
Replies: 22
Views: 706

Re: Nazarene Christianity

The worst part about any discussion of 'Jewish-Christianity' is that no attempt is made to distinguish between the ten commandments and the Pentateuch. Clearly any Jewish Christian sect was against animal sacrifices. Yet 'the Law' is used in such a haphazard sense by our earliest sources that it ess...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Iraneus and Polycarp
Replies: 12
Views: 275

Re: Iraneus and Polycarp

Notice also that 'Herod' Atticus appears as a protagonist of both Polycarp and Peregrinus. Polycarp and Peregrinus = one and the same person. Ignatius the 'fiery one' is just 'old Polycarp' - i.e. pre-martyrdom - version of the same person. Notice that Peregrinus kept coming back to Atticus's exedra...
by Secret Alias
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Iraneus and Polycarp
Replies: 12
Views: 275

Re: Iraneus and Polycarp

But SINCE the dove has obvious parallels with Peregrinus AND Eusebius's text is likely quite old (his library quite good) good chance it was original and subsequently altered.