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by Ben C. Smith
Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The introduction of Luke
Replies: 13
Views: 144

Re: The introduction of Luke

I don't think "fulfilled" is a good translation: the Thayer Greek Lexicon has for "ἀνατάξασθαι": put together in order, arrange, compose, as in the RSV: "Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things which have been accomplished among us," (of course, this statement, with "m...
by Ben C. Smith
Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome
Replies: 29
Views: 315

Re: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome

What about this translation assumpto (taking) itaque (therefore) evangelio (gospel) quod ipse (the same) confecerat (completed) , perrexit (went) Aegyptum (Egypt) et primus (and first) Alexandriae (Alexandria) Christum annucians (Christ announced) constituit ecclesiam (constituted a church) tanta d...
by Ben C. Smith
Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcionite agreements with Matthew against Luke?
Replies: 45
Views: 360

Re: Marcionite agreements with Matthew against Luke?

Are there such things? The proposition of Klinghardt is that Matthew is derived from Mark and Marcion, and Luke is derived from Matthew, Mark and Marcion. If this is the case, I would expect to see cases of agreement between Matthew and Marcion against Luke. Does any such thing exist? Complicated i...
by Ben C. Smith
Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The introduction of Luke
Replies: 13
Views: 144

Re: The introduction of Luke

Firstly, is this an actual dedication to a real person named Theophilus? Under the assumption that it is, it is often proposed that this dedication is evidence that "Luke" was a patron of some wealthy individual who had commissioned him to write these works. To me this seems unlikely. I have a very...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 117
Views: 1241

Re: dating the birth stories?

davidmartin wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:16 pm
One of the points raised to argue James must draw from Luke/Matthew is the mention of Zechariah
Where is this point made?
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome
Replies: 29
Views: 315

Re: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome

Why do translators make Mark the subject of the sentence, the 'exemplum' which compels the converts? Because evangelio is not in the nominative. It is in the ablative as part of the ablative absolute, assumpto itaque evangelio . It would be pretty amazing (and barbaric) for the subject of the sente...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome
Replies: 29
Views: 315

Re: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome

Can anyone explain to me why translators ignore that vitae is plural in this sentence: assumpto itaque evangelio quod ipse confecerat, perrexit Aegyptum et primus Alexandriae Christum annucians constituit ecclesiam tanta doctrina et vitae continentia ut omnes sectatores Christi ad exemplum sui coge...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 117
Views: 1241

Re: dating the birth stories?

This is a version of chapters 11-24 of the Protoevangelium of James adapted from Alexander Walker's translation, with my notes in brackets. I originally made this for an assignment for an undergraduate Introduction to the New Testament class I was teaching, in which the bracketed notes were Word co...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 117
Views: 1241

Re: dating the birth stories?

The Matthew nativity could possibly be explained by embellishing the source too A whole choir of angels appears there compared to one in the James? There is no choir of angels in Matthew. You are thinking of Luke. The Infancy Gospel of James, however, lacks the pericope in Luke (about the shepherds...