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- Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:06 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Alan Garrow: Scrolls are so 'last century'
- Replies: 42
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Re: Alan Garrow: Scrolls are so 'last century'
I'm first going to address the unsubstantiated 'unpicking' charge in the first video (video 1/5) and look at two of the synopses Garrow uses in the video to attempt to substantiate it: https://www.alangarrow.com/mch.html/ Garrow: If Luke is using Matthew, there are occasions where he has to remove M...
- Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:24 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Alan Garrow: Scrolls are so 'last century'
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4699
Re: Alan Garrow: Scrolls are so 'last century'
PPS - If you think Evangelion preceded Mark, I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. /s :D IMNSHO, Garrow is one of many scholars of the synoptic problem who sees the data through the lens of his own hypothesis (and that of the 2DH). I have criticized his lack of even-handedness...
- Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:25 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
- Replies: 155
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Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
Sorry for the interruption. I am sill trying to absorb what you've said here (and in this thread in general) and I'm afraid I've fallen a bit behind. I hope you can clarify two points for me (I had a third but have forgotten what it was): Sure, no worries! I've been busy. I'm happy that you're read...
- Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:47 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
- Replies: 155
- Views: 8876
Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
In the third passion prediction, we can recover the likely wording of Evangelion on analogy with Mark and with reference to the resurrection narrative, which refers back to the passion predictions, as quoted by Epiphanius: He falsified what Christ said to Cleopas and the other when he met them, “O ...
- Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: R.I.P. Theodore Weeden (July 8, 1933 - April 2, 2023)
- Replies: 1
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R.I.P. Theodore Weeden (July 8, 1933 - April 2, 2023)
I have only just leaned that Ted Weeden, whose name has come up on this forum a few times in various contexts, passed away earlier this year (April 2, 2023). https://www.crawfordfuneralhome.com/obituary/RevDrTheodoreTed-Weeden?fbclid=IwAR2BQ91zdbDzdrqOhSGl4haoGvFGxDq_xMp6y3ZLsQorE6oXTFwis58u-9g Best...
- Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My Strongest Argument Marcion WASN'T First
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1546
Re: My Strongest Argument Marcion WASN'T First
This is interesting and I'd like to pose a related question. While we can find Marcionite claims that the text of the canonical Gospel contained interpolations by Judaizers, is it clearly stated anywhere in an ancient source that Marcion claimed to have found an uninterpolated copy of the Gospel (a...
- Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A baptism of Jesus by John that is NOT anti-marcionite, but PRE-Marcionite
- Replies: 13
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Re: A baptism of Jesus by John that is NOT anti-marcionite, but PRE-Marcionite
Could you cite the pages in Klinghardt that Vinzent is talking about here? I imagine Vinzent cites them. Vinzent quotes directly Klinghardt, but the references (p. 374-375) are to the German version from 2015: The terminus ante quem is derived from the patristic attestation of the Gospels in their ...
- Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A baptism of Jesus by John that is NOT anti-marcionite, but PRE-Marcionite
- Replies: 13
- Views: 628
Re: A baptism of Jesus by John that is NOT anti-marcionite, but PRE-Marcionite
Now that I remember, possibly I have been partially "influenced" by this passage: Thus, even though Klinghardt makes a good argument that the compilation of texts known as the New Testament was already known to Justin, and perhaps even to Marcion, it is only from Irenaeus onward that the ...
- Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My Strongest Argument Marcion WASN'T First
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1546
Re: My Strongest Argument Marcion WASN'T First
According to Tertullian, a letter from Marcion shows that Marcion initially followed the proto-orthodox position, before creating his own version. That means Marcion's Gospel wasn't the first: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/tertullian121.html Marcion has quenched the light of his faith,...
- Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:41 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: A structured approach to the synoptic problem as a question of four documents including *Ev
- Replies: 9
- Views: 646
Re: A structured approach to the synoptic problem as a question of four documents including *Ev
I have a question about the three Passion Predictions in the Synoptics and how the work on Klinghardt’s theory that *Ev was prior to Mark. Three Passion Predictions.png On the three principal Markan priority theories (2DH, Farrer, MPH), Mark is first and has the three Passion Predictions grouped fai...