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Giuseppe is quoting from this:

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:27 am
Couchoud's reply to the Loisy's reply is published in appendix here.

https://www.mythicistpapers.com/Couchoud_Creation_2.pdf

It is hardly surprising that an orthodox evangelist should have undertaken the task of re-editing, correcting and completing Marcion's gospel. The anonymous author of the Gospel which we call Luke's, alludes to his predecessors, who were fairly numerous (πολλοί) and he sets himself the task of dete...

More precisely, Couchoud replies to Loisy as to the Marcion/Luke question in the following way (p. 442-443): I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Loisy assigns it “an inter...

In a passage on Martyrdom, Marcion writes: "Ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake, but in your patience possess ye your souls," but Luke gives: "... for my name's sake, but there shall not be a hair of your head perish . In your patience, etc. ..." (xxi. 17). The sente...

Let us turn to other examples:— Marcion records two incidents which, appearing at first sight to be analogous, are, in reality, fundamentally different. In the first a lawyer asks Jesus what must be done to obtain life, and Jesus tells him to obey the Law. By "life" however, is meant &quo...

II. ...... < omitted> "In order to reach an incontrovertible conclusion, one must obviously begin by comparing those parts of the gospel common to both Luke and Marcion with the sections peculiar to each. It is almost invariably the sections peculiar to Luke which come under discussion, as tho...

II. The chief problem raised by Marcion's gospel is not that of its reconstruction but that of determining the significance of its close affinity with Luke's. Which served as a basis for the other? " Is Marcion's gospel (as Tertullian in the third, and Epiphanius in the fifth century both affi...

After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers (Luke 2:46-47) ...was based on Josephus's Life 2: ...and I made mighty proficiency in the improvement...

Basically, in a nut shell, Josephus was aware of Christian-esque beliefs about logos that foretold the end of Temple sacrifice; and Josephus is rationalizing these beliefs as "signs" that pointed to the Temple destruction. Is all of this just blind speculation and a grouping around in the...

You have to take into consideration Michael's reasoning for thinking as he did. He had said that Christianity began as a logos-based religion after the Temple (or to replace the Temple), and Josephus was trying to rationalize their beliefs. The first proposition, that "Christianity began as a ...