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- Sat May 11, 2024 3:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simonians
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Re: Simonians
Eusebius' Eccl. hist. II.1.10-12: (paraphrases Acts 8:9-13 and misrepresents Simon as being called the Great Power, as does Acts 8: Simon in both is an emphatic personification of Simonian theology) So much did divine grace cooperate with Philip than even Simon the magus, with many others, were draw...
- Sat May 11, 2024 1:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
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- Views: 140
Re: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
Markion radicalized this dogma when he ventured his Antitheses and everything else he thought would impugn the Artificer of all things. 201 Loukianos his disciple taught the same. 202 Marcion and Loukianos---the original Mark and Luke? I wonder if the names were co-opted, eg. by Irenaeus. (I think ...
- Sat May 11, 2024 1:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simonians
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Simonians
M David Litwa's very recently published book, Simon of Samaria a and the Simonians: Contours of an Early Christian Movement, outlines ... "a distinctly "Simonian" version of Christianity between the second and fourth centuries CE. ... "Anti-Simon(ian) stories and reports began to...
- Thu May 09, 2024 11:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
- Replies: 4
- Views: 140
Re: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
e Tertullian Against Marcion 1 .2 The heretic of Pontus introduces two Gods, like the twin Symplegades of his own shipwreck: One whom it was impossible to deny, ie. our Creator; and one whom he will never be able to prove, ie. his own god. The unhappy man gained the first idea of his conceit from t...
- Thu May 09, 2024 10:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
- Replies: 4
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Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
From Refutation of al Heresies book 7: (M David Litwa's book version) 36.3 ... The Holy Spirit through the Revelation of John mocked his [Nikolaos's +/- others'] disciples and exposed them as “fornicators and eaters of meat sacrificed to idols”. 199 37. 1. A certain Kerdon likewise took his starting...
- Fri May 03, 2024 2:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
But it is noteworthy that many of the passages in Luke which they consider to be second-hand, that is, taken direct, and often word by word, from Mark, are precisely those [absent] from Marcion for no reason, doctrinal or otherwise, that can be discovered. For instance, take the account of the Puri...
- Fri May 03, 2024 1:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Loisy's response to Couchoud concerning the two pericopes of material which are not attested in Luke: Loisy - Reply - Bottom 379.png Loisy - Reply - Top 380.png Loisy's argument against Couchoud, to put it simply, is that the attestation for attributing these two pericopes to Marcion is insufficien...
- Fri May 03, 2024 5:12 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Giuseppe is quoting from this:
Giuseppe wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:27 am
Couchoud's reply to the Loisy's reply is published in appendix here.
https://www.mythicistpapers.com/Couchoud_Creation_2.pdf
- Fri May 03, 2024 5:06 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
It is hardly surprising that an orthodox evangelist should have undertaken the task of re-editing, correcting and completing Marcion's gospel. The anonymous author of the Gospel which we call Luke's, alludes to his predecessors, who were fairly numerous (πολλοί) and he sets himself the task of dete...
- Fri May 03, 2024 5:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 48
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
More precisely, Couchoud replies to Loisy as to the Marcion/Luke question in the following way (p. 442-443): I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Loisy assigns it “an inter...