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by MrMacSon
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parable of Sower and Aelia Capitolina
Replies: 8
Views: 124

Re: Parable of Sower and Aelia Capitolina

. . . This is another clue that the Gospels were written under Hadrian. The Roman Emperor Julian wrote the following which perhaps would support an earlier dating. Yet Jesus, who won over the least worthy of you, has been known by name for but little more than three hundred years : and during his l...
by MrMacSon
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incarnation (or the lack thereof) in the Philippian hymn (revisited).
Replies: 30
Views: 4756

Re: Incarnation (or the lack thereof) in the Philippian hymn (revisited).

This thread is about the Jesus hymn of Philippians 2.6-11 . Ben's preferred structure for this passage has followed the English versification - . 6 Who, though existing in the form of God, did not regard it as plunder to be equal to God, 7 but rather emptied himself, having taken the form of a slave...
by MrMacSon
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pastorals
Replies: 31
Views: 2017

Re: The Pastorals

Sure, and Nazarene Jewish Christians also existed long after 70 CE ... And they would have also had to contend with emergent Gnosticism and bridging "the differences between Pauline and non-Pauline Christians," right? I've seen several scholars say Christianity was Jewish (ie. it was a 'Jewish Chri...
by MrMacSon
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Q
Replies: 9
Views: 1052

Re: Q

eta. Brodie says Deuteronomy is eminently appropriate as a basis for arranging logia ... It is a summa of Jewish tradition; it is central to Jewish piety, and it contains the climactic discourses of Israel's greatest prophet ... Deuteronomy revolves around three elements: the people, law , and the f...
by MrMacSon
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Q
Replies: 9
Views: 1052

Re: Q

Does anyone present a detailed case why they think Q is based on Deuteronomy? Notice I was referring to sayings derived from Deuteronomy: MacDonald calls them Logoi of Jesus and designates than Q+ (see the diagram above^^^^). Brodie just calls then Logia , and proposes that the sayings attributed t...
by MrMacSon
Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE
Replies: 7
Views: 904

Re: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE

IIRC, he [Constantine] legalized it[Christianity] officially once he became emperor (I forget the exact date and cannot access the detail as I am on break at work) ... In February 313 AD Constantine (then emperor of the western Roman empire) and Licinius (then emperor of the east) signed a letter c...
by MrMacSon
Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE
Replies: 7
Views: 904

Re: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE

The 3rd century CE Roman world was a period of chaos and a breakdown of the unsystematic way that Romans dealt with economics (they did not seem to have a systematic set of economic laws mapped out as as we do since the 17th century), and introduction of pagan equivalents to Christian or Judean rev...
by MrMacSon
Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Q
Replies: 9
Views: 1052

Dennis MacDonald on 'Q'

My POV ... was that Q was a real life collection of sagely sayings that was not based on Jesus' sayings, but one of many such works floating around the ANE. Thomas Brodie thinks they are based on Deuteronomy as, it seems does, Dennis MacDonald as outlined in his 2012 Two Shipwrecked Gospels: the Lo...
by MrMacSon
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Q
Replies: 9
Views: 1052

Q

. Tom Dyskstra on 'Q' - . ... the Apostle [Paul] records almost nothing of his Lord’s life and sayings 40 ... Some scholars postulate the existence of a written document they call Q which preserved a substantial series of Jesus’ sayings, and which might have been written down before Mark. 41 Accord...
by MrMacSon
Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE
Replies: 7
Views: 904

Re: Platonists, Priests, and Gnostics in the 3rd Century CE

More - . In the fourth century, one sees increasing tension between these two groups as religious boundaries become more clearly drawn and violently enforced. Yet, one of the key questions this study seeks to answer is whether in the third century, a century punctuated by sporadic, infrequent violen...