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by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?
Replies: 11
Views: 138

Re: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?

8. But Justin was especially prominent in those days. In the guise of a philosopher he preached the divine word, and contended for the faith in his writings. He wrote also a work against Marcion, in which he states that the latter was alive at the time he wrote. 9. He speaks as follows: And there i...
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

Giuseppe wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:39 am
You are a troll if you talk so, sorry.
I am what I am
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

but it's worse than that, i don't know what YHWH means. what is YHWH?
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

well i still think the Clementines are against John the baptist whether he's historical or not and i don't think if that was true it would hurt your theory either. it might support your theory. I truly doubt you can simply divide people up into adorers or haters of YHWH though... i just don't know w...
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 597

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

These are all pretty much guesses that don't help date them Nothing conclusive i see so far That is the problem: nothing conclusive (until the Odes start showing up in patristic quotations, in gnostic speculations, and in the manuscript history). That may also be why scholars hesitate to do much wi...
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

no, John was called John by his father - he didn't get to choose his name
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 597

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

These are all pretty much guesses that don't help date them
Nothing conclusive i see so far

I can point out parts in them that suggest the author knew the saviour figure giving an internal dating to the 50's
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

Giuseppe, ok but i think your missing what the text is saying when it talks about the method of combination What if the John the Baptist of the fourth gospel was the the John the baptist in the Clementines? If you already think there was a gnostic John then it would make sense - The co-option of the...
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

John the Baptist is not condemned in Clementines. What is condemned is the Gnostic cooptation of John the Baptist, allegorized by Dositheus and the Magus being disciples of the Baptist. As collateral effect, you may say at most that John the Baptist's authority results mitigated by his having simil...
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 406

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

it is false that the Clementines reject John the Baptist, sorry. Mere association with Dositheus and the Magus is not equivalent to a condemnation. yes it is, take another look and you will see i'm right it's more than mere association, it's about leaders of the very same sect John led it, after hi...