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by nightshadetwine
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?
Replies: 14
Views: 9511

Re: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?

I think we can relate the Eleusinian theme to 1 Cor 15: (1 Cor 15:20) But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep […] (1 Cor 15:37) And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain Why th...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Source of Mark's Naked Youth Narrative?
Replies: 18
Views: 420

Re: The Source of Mark's Naked Youth Narrative?

She caught him by his (Joseph's) cloak and said, “Come to bed with me!” But he left his cloak in her hand and ran out of the house. [Genesis 39:12] Clement sees a lot of naked Joseph in the Bible. Naked when his brother's stripped him of his cloak and again in this scene: As is right, then, he neve...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

Gods taking on a disguise or lower status and blindness as a metaphor for lacking spiritual sight: The Transfiguration: an Exercise in Markan Accommodation (Yale University, 2004), Candida Moss: A variety of Greek myths recount how the gods often walked amongst humans in disguise and it is certainly...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

More on the novels containing some of the same themes as the texts of the NT. Journeys of suffering and the loss of status (becoming a slave or a lower form of being like a donkey in the case of Lucius) that lead to rebirth/resurrection and salvation, themes of "descent" and "ascent&q...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The context and backgrounds of the triumphal entry stories in the New Testament
Replies: 1
Views: 98

Re: The context and backgrounds of the triumphal entry stories in the New Testament

The Grotesque Body in Early Christian Discourse Hell, Scatology and Metamorphosis (Routledge, 2014), Istvan Czachesz: There is yet another ancient narrative about asses to be mentioned in this chapter, a novel that survived in two literary adaptations; its influence and popularity can be readily com...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The context and backgrounds of the triumphal entry stories in the New Testament
Replies: 1
Views: 98

The context and backgrounds of the triumphal entry stories in the New Testament

This post shows the possible sources that were used for the triumphal entry stories in the NT texts. There are passages in the Hebrew scriptures such as Zechariah 9 and the Psalms that were likely used as sources. Roman triumphs performed by the emperors were likely also an influence. The Roman triu...
by nightshadetwine
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

this is all very interesting especially the classic quotes in corinthians and acts but.... too much information! there needs to be a concordance to easily look up which passages have classic parallels otherwise it's impossible to get a clear picture Yeah, I know. I wasn't sure exactly how to go abo...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

Some more sources on triumphal processions being associated with mystery cults (especially Dionysus) and possible ritual insults in mystery cults. Dionysus is often rejected but returns in triumph. Jesus is rejected after his triumphal entry but his followers believe he will someday return in triump...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

Thank you for starting this! No problem! Hopefully some users will find it interesting. I know it's a ridiculous amount of information and quotes. An interesting passage for sure. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2008.01.0061:chapter=28 It's interesting that Plutarch think...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: Common themes found in the New Testament texts and other Greco-Roman and ancient Near Eastern stories

It's interesting that in the following quote, Richard Seaford sees mystery cult elements in the retelling of the story of Prometheus in the Prometheia by Aeschylus. It makes sense that someone would take the story of Prometheus' suffering for the benefit of humanity and associate it with mystery cul...